Which grip strength tool to get from Rogue?
This is an overview of the available grip strength tools from Rogue including the pros, cons, and alternatives for each item. You will find an Index for easy navigation of this article and a quick reference for the impatient. Follow the links for more details.
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Index
This is an Index of the options discussed in this article which is ordered from most to least expensive. The list is as followed:
This is an overview of the products in this post which range from $300 to as low as about $50. Scroll down to find the specific product you want details on.
Quick reference
This is a quick reference for anyone who does not want to read the full article and just wants to make a quick decision on their group strength purchase.
Best stand-alone purchase
Most versatile for an existing gym
The best system for grip strength when you have a rack
Best upgrade fo a non-Rogue Lat pulldown
Back widow
Overview of the back widow
Price: $299
The back widow is a versatile handle that can be used as an attachment for cable pulls and attached to a barbell for landmine rows. This makes it a very versatile tool that can be used in many scenarios to improve grip and back strength. This is an ideal solution for a home gym where the user wants to save space and money for multiple applications. In bigger gym scenarios it might be a better approach to get multiple handles for the price of one back widow. The full specifications are:
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Multi-Use Attachment for Back Workouts
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15+ Adjustable Positions
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Length: 5.5" (Lower Handles) / 4.25" (Upper Handles)
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Diameter: 1.25" (Handles)
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Weight: 9.25 LBS
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Carabiner Slot for Attachments: 9/16” wide x 1” tall
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Color: Black
This tool is definitely worth its money when you want to have a landmine handle and an attachment for your lat pull machine at home.
Pros of the back widow
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Versatility
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High-quality build
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Weight
This attachment for a pulley and to bars has many different configurations which will help you to build a bigger back and stronger grip. It can also mix up the work with a rowing machine or lat pull so that you can stay motivated and attack all different areas of your back. With its high-quality build, you can throw almost anything at the back widow without breaking it and even use it like a deadlift jack. The weight of this handle attributes for its high-quality design. You can see that professionally wanted to design something helpful for other professionals with the Back widow.
Cons of the Back widow
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Price
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Weight
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Only one handle
With a $price tag of $300 the back widow is not cheap. for that amount of money, you can get three stainless lat bars from a low price vendor or a big assortment of smaller handles. The weight itself is also not great when your home gym setup is a bit flimsy. If you combine it with the Spud Inc. pulley or similar self-made contraption, you will have problems with keeping a smooth feed through the rollers. This is best used with a stationary lat pull or rowing machines like the Rogue CT1 or the Rogue Monster Lat pull down. In a commercial gym setting, it is also better to get multiple handles rather than one handle. Most average joes will find the adjustments on the widow annoying rather than helpful for a quick workout and as a commercial gym owner you rather have three different handles for three different towers than one handle for three towers.
Alternatives to the back widow
Alternatives to the back widow are:
Rogue Multi-grip cable attachment is a massive handle that can be attached to cable pulleys. This is a great tool for any strongmen who want to work on their grip and pull work. This attachment simulates better when you do not get the best grip on a big weight because the handles are not in the most advantageous position. With $175 it also leaves room for handles to be bought against the same budget like the back widow. The only downside of this attachment is that it is very heavy.
The Rogue Stainless steel bar is a classic lat pull bar that is straight and curved at the ends for different grip variations. This is the standard option that most gyms go with for their towers. Compared to the Back widow you can almost get two of these for the same price. The only disadvantages are that it can be quite boring and that you might get this cheaper from a different vendor than from Rogue.
The Rogue tricep strap is the better partner for home gym pulley setups that are a little makeshift. Its lower weight makes it easier to maneuver and get a smooth ride in place. It is also quite a bit cheaper than a back widow or any of the other attachments. The disadvantage is that it is not suitable for big heavy pulls where you spread your arms wide.
Conclusion for the back widow
The back widow is a great tool for the home gym owner who has some extra cash to spend, likes high-quality products, and does not want too many handles flying about. Just have a hard look at your training routine if you actually do t bar rows and lat pulls already in your local gym or desperately miss out on them. This attachment is not just a gimmick like many others. For commercial gyms, I do not see the point as it is usually more practical to have a wall or bag full of a lot of attachments where people help themselves. The back widow would need some instructions and also the versatility does not really apply to the commercial scenario. The teenagers or your strongest hulk will probably hug this attachment for two hours. Better to have more handles for others who are waiting.
Rogue Multi-grip cable attachment
Overview of the Multi-grip Attachment
Price: $175
The Rogue Multi-grip cable attachment is the big mamma of the cable attachments from Rogue. It weighs in at 25.5lb and is based on the multi-grip bar designs from Rogue. This cable attachment is a great tool for strongmen or powerlifters who like to train on the westside method and have push/pull days. In a strong gym, you will have fans. If you own a commercial gym with clients who are mainly focused on fitness and weight loss, then this attachment might be oversized. The full specifications are:
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Made in the USA
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Compatible with most Lat Pull Down / Low Row machines
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Length: 48"
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Width: 7" depth
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Height: 8.25"
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(8) Knurled Handles: 1.31" OD, spaced at 12" - 23.375" - 34.75" and 46.125"
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(2) End Plates: 0.1875" laser cut steel w/ laser-cut Rogue logo on each
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Black Carabiner included
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Finish: Standard Textured Black Powder Coat
This is a well made, heavy-duty cable attachment where you get what you buy. In most gyms, it will mostly lie in the corner, unless you are massive yourself or have multiple towers to work with.
Pros of the Multi-grip Attachment
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Very wide grip possible
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Grip variation on the usual stainless steel bar
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Simulates strongman scenarios better
If you are big, you need bigger toys. That is just how it goes. The multi-grip attachment delivers just that. Compared to a usual stainless lat bar you can also work with a grip variation in very heavy pulls. The handles are also closer to anything that you might face when someone welded on a handle to a heavy object. A lot of fun to be had for $175.
Cons of the Multi-grip Attachment
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Very heavy
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You probably already have a bar
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Not versatile
If you are not big or use this in a fitness-focused gym it is quite heavy to get on the tower. Especially if you only have one or two for attachment are regularly swapped. If you have a four-way tower setup where you can permanently install it, it is a good option, but not when people have to lift it themselves. If you bought a lat pull machine chances are big that you already have a stainless steel bar. That is more than enough for most mortals, so why spend more money on the multi-grip attachment. If you buy more equipment you might look into a back widow or small handles that you can use to pull in different directions.
Alternatives to the Multi-grip Attachment
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Simple handle
The back widow can be a great addition to your gym line up or replace the Stainless lat bar you might already now. The back widow is versatile and can be used in many different configurations from wide to narrow including different hand positions. It can also be used as a T-Bar row handle for a barbell and deadlift jack. The only thing not to like about the back widow is the price of $300. A great option for a home gym with a dedicated user.
The Stainless lat bar is the standard lat bar from Rogue that comes with the CT1 or Monster lat pulldown machines. If you want more of these, lost the one that came with your purchase, or acquired a lat pull machine without a bar, this is the safe option.
A simple handle can also do wonders. These are usually $20-$30 and can be used for more applications than the Multi-grip Cable attachment. With a simple handle, you can use your pulley in many different directions. The only downside is that this is not made for very heavy pulls and is also not as much fun.
Conclusion for the Rogue Multi-grip cable attachment
This is a great option for very big athletes or for a commercial gym that wants to offer some variety on many different weight stack towers. Most home gym users who already own a lat pull-down will have a bar and not really have a need for this, unless for fun or as a nice treat for a birthday, Christmas, or another occasion as men always like their new toys.
Branch and beam
Overview of the branch and beam
Price: $170
The branch and beam are bars from rogue which have been made extra fat. The branch has a round grip, while the beam has a square grip. These two bars are a great alternative to the traditional 28-29mm bars and a bit closer to the unconventional lifts you can find in strongman competitions. This will also help with your grip strength in general. The specifications of the two bars are:
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Round grip
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Outside Diameter: 3"
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Bar Length: 80.5"
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Bar Weight: 39LB
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The Rogue Beam Fat Bar
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Square grip
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Fat Grip is 3x3”
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Bar Length: 80.5"
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Bar Weight: 41LB
These are great additions to a fully equipped gym that looks for more options to entertain their clients or a strongman home gym who wants to be prepared for anything.
Pros of the branch and beam
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Safe to use
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Easy to load
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Easy to store
The branch and beam are two options to challenge your grip for heavy lifts with unconventional setups. They can be stored on a regular barbell gun rack, are easy to load, and are safer to use than an actual tree trunk or wooden beam. Compared to other more cumbersome solutions to the problems they solve they are a preferable option.
Cons of the branch and beam
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No knurling
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Issues with the finish
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Narrow use cases
For bars with very limited use cases, unless you really make a point about using them, they are eating up quite a bit of space to become a gimmick. As these bars also not go through the standard quality tests for all barbells from rogue, some of them lack in quality. Especially during COVID where some extra people were hired.
Alternatives to the branch and beam
Fat gripz are an easy and cheap way to turn a barbell into a branch. These are made of plastic and can be wrapped around the bar to make it thicker.
Pinch blocks can be used to simulate the beam. Combined with straps and a carabiner you can hook up kettlebells, dumbbells, and barbells to your liking.
Log bars are an essential training tool for strongman athletes as no competition goes without a log bar lift. The neutral grip also challenges the regular deadlift setup.
Conclusion for the branch and beam
The branch and beam are great tools for serious strongman athletes or gyms who like to mix things up regularly. With pinch blocks and fat gripz you can simulate similar stress to the body, without eating up as much space in your home gym.
Rogue Stainless lat bar
Overview of the Rogue Stainless lat bar
Price: $165
The Rogue stainless lat bar is made from stainless steel by the professionals at Rogue who know how to work metal. This lat bar comes standard with the Rogue Monster Lat pulldown machine. If you are buying from Rogues you will most likely already have this bar. The specifications of the stainless lat bar are:
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Made in the USA
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Width: 48"
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Diameter: 1.125"
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Knurled Stainless Steel
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Laser-cut Rogue “R” branding
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(1) Black Carabiner Included
This is a solid lat bar either as a replacement when some of your existing equipment breaks, or you want to upgrade a bargain you got from the internet on a lat pull machine. As it comes standard with the Rogue machines that it attaches to, it is not often seen by itself in the wild.
Pros of the Rogue Stainless lat bar
Pros of the Rogue Stainless lat bar:
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Stainless
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Made in USA
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Good craftmanship
The team at Rogue knows how to work metal and the brand is carried by the reputation that everything they make is overbuilt. The stainless lat bar is no exception and is an upgrade to most lat bars out there. If you bought a cheap weight stack tower, at least give some proper love to your hands and get a good lat bar.
Cons of the Rogue Stainless lat bar
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Heavy
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Aggressive knurling
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Price
As this is an overbuilt bar some might say that makes it overpriced. I would not belong to that group, as I love overbuilt things, but f you do not care about that you can get a bar like this for a third of the price. As it is stainless steel this lat bar is also heavier than most other lat bars and has more aggressive knurling. This might not appeal to the general public as well, as one of the mass-produced Chinese lat bars.
Alternatives to the Rogue Stainless lat bar
The Rogue Multi-grip cable attachment is a massive lat pull that gives you multiple grip variations at a different angle to a straight lat bar. This is especially interesting for big athletes and those training for strongman competitions. It is only $10 more than the stainless lat bar and worth looking into if you want to buy a second attachment.
The back widow is a great option if you can afford the $299 and want a very versatile attachment for your lat pull that triples up as a T-Bar row and deadlift jack. This is a great option for a home gym that wants to save space and still have many options. For a commercial gym, this might not be the best bet, as you can get 5 Rogue Monster grip triangles, or a mix of attachments, for the same price for multiple users.
The Rogue Monster grip triangle is a good option if you want a little variation and you are happy with your current lat bar. It only costs $60 and is therefore something easy to throw into bigger orders to make it to an even amount. It is also not as massive as the Multi-grip or pricey as the back widow.
Conclusion for the Rogue stainless steel lat bar
The Rogue stainless steel lat bar is a great upgrade for a lat pull that has not been bought from Rogue. If you did not want to spend the $3000 on an original Rogue Lat pull-down, then at least you can get the lat bar for $165. If you are looking to purchase a second attachment for your lat pull, the stainless bar is rather pointless, as you already have one at home. Try to vary things then.
Rogue 12 inch Pull up Globe
Overview of the Rogue 12-inch pull-up globe
Price $140 - $154
The Rogue 12-inch pull up globe is exactly what it says on the tin. You get a globe that you can hang from your rack or your rig to do pull-ups with. This is a great finisher to a good session or fun little competition to have in a gym with a good community. The full specifications of the globe are:
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12" Diameter Steel Sphere
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Rogue Matte Black Powder coating
A great little gimmick to have if you have space and money. If I owned a commercial gym, I would have one of these to challenge my personal training clients so that they keep in mind I am different.
Pros of the 12-inch pull-up globe
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Unusual grip challenge
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Well made
The globe provides a grip challenge, that is different from many others. Especially for very big athletes, the globe might be better than a pinch block, due to their body weight. If you weigh 140kg It is easier to hang onto something big, rather than having to pinch a tiny block. It will also better simulate events like the Atlas stone.
Cons of the 12-inch pull-up globe
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Size
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Price
Fr a home gym that has to take care of space this globe is too big. If your space is already crammed than the last thing you want is a 12-inch globe hanging in your face. For most gym setups it will be more money and space economical to go with the cannonball grips and some pinch blocks, as they cost roughly the same amount as a set, but leave you with more options and less space taken up in your gym.
Alternatives to the 12-inch pull-up globe
All of these items are part of the Rogue grip strength line up that uses a simple carabiner on the rack on which these different attachments can be hooked. The pinch block is the hardest while the grandfather clock grip is the easiest. This makes for quite a bit of variation in your training and I would personally prefer to get a mix of these three rather than the globe for roughly the same budget.
Conclusion for the Rogue 12-inch globe
This is a great tool for big athletes as a better alternative for strength training as the pinch blocks. Still, the globe takes up a lot of space, is not very versatile, and costs more than the most other attachments for grip strength. It is a great eyecatcher in a gym for challenges, but the pragmatic gym owner will probably buy some pinch blocks and cannonballs.
Rogue Power pin
Overview of the Rogue power pin
Price: $136.50
The Rogue Power pin is a simple tool for narrow grip deadlifts like the power stairs or duck walks. It is mainly a tool for strongmen training and can also be used to improve your grip in general. It can be loaded up to 500lbs and there is also a ring attachment for it for $50. This is a practical, small tool to especially train weight holds in your home gym or simulate some strongman events. The full specifications are:
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Made in America
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Diameter: 1.96" loading pin, 4.5" ring
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Length: 12" loadable length
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Weight:12.5LB, 500+LB weight capacity
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10 holes spaced 1” on center for an adjustable height range of 19.75” to 28.75”
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Black Powder Coat Finish
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Available as Fully Assembled Unit or Just Handle (for use with original Rogue Power Pin)
A small amount of money well spent to put some variety into your deadlift training.
Pros of the Rogue power pin
Good price
Simple effective tool
Good finish
With these kinds of tools, it is all about making them easy to use and fit well with the plates. Rogue did a good job on the detail which otherwise can turn something simple into something useless. If you are considering a trap bar a power pin is cheaper and more fun to use.
Cons of the rogue power pin
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Only loadable to 500lbs
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Not versatile
The power pin can only be loaded to 500lb. While this is more than enough for most humans, this is a tool that will also raise interest for the strongest among us. They may want something that can take even more weight. In addition, the only thing you will do with the power pin is to pull something off the floor. For $140 you have other options like jumping ropes or slam balls that can be used in more ways.
Alternatives to the Rogue power pin
The rogue trap bar would be another way to vary your deadlift and grip training. A trap bar would still enable you to lift the weight with your arms outside the legs. This is usually a better variation for beginners. A trap bar can also be loaded with more weight. Downsides to a trap bar are the bigger price tag and space requirements.
The anvil grip attachment is an interesting twist on deadlifts and holds. You will need a power pin to make it work but it will be worth it. It is shaped like a cone and comes in two different colors, black, and chrome. This is a great tool to collect with other grip strength utensils to let nothing escape your hands.
If you want to get your core more rigid to be able to pick up things from the ground faster and stronger you can also get a decently sized MK D-ball. For the budget of the power pin, you can get a 40lb to 50lb ball. This leaves with more options for carries, slams, ball to shoulders, and similar exercises. The downside is that the ball can not be adjusted for weight and trains your grip less.
The dinnie rings are more an accessory to the power pin rather than an alternative. The dinnie rings in combination with two pins are probably the best way to simulate the famous Scottish stone lift at home and prepare for it.
Conclusion for the Rogue power pin
The rogue power pin is a cost and space-efficient way to mix up your deadlift and grip training if you already have the necessary plates. If you are only starting your grip strength journey you might be better off buying pinch blocks and cannonballs to start as you will not need Kanye’s to make them work.
Rogue Anvil grip
Overview of the Anvil grip
The rogue anvil grip simulates a time old feat of strength. Many attempted to lift an anvil by the horn. The cone shape of the anvil grip simulates this. To increase the weight you can attach it to a loading which Rogue sells separately. The specifications of the anvil grip are:
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Made in the USA
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Machined from a Solid Piece of Steel
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Weight (Unloaded): 12.33 LBS
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Tapered Cone-Shape design: 3” dia. at the base, 0.75” dia. at top
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Eye Bolt at the base for attaching weight via loading pin (pin sold separately)
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Engraved Rogue branding
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Finish Options: Bare Steel or Black Oxide
This is a solid piece of steel to varying your deadlift and grip strength.
Pros of the anvil grip
Good quality
Simple design
Challenge for the grip
This is a great tool for working on your grip strength. The cone shape gives you a different challenge than the usual bar grippers most people use. A great addition for someone who almost has everything but wants to challenge his or her grip even further.
Cons of the anvil grip
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Needs plates and pin to function
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Very specialized equipment
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High likelihood to gather dust
While these are a good addition to an existing for someone who is serious about grip strength, for some others this might just be a fun little purchase that is ultimately money down a hole. Be sure you have the plates and you are also investing in a loading pin. Once you are of this mindset you will probably also get the dinnie rings and other grip attachments from Rogue. For someone who is very busy or not dedicated to grip strength this can be a purchase that will lie around in your gym more than you use it.
Alternatives of the anvil grip
For the average Joe, a set of pinch grip and cannonball grip handles are probably the better choices. They are easier to handle with kettlebells or to hang from your rack. Therefore they do not necessarily need a loading pin to function. This gives you more versatility for a little more spend then for the anvil grip.
The dinnie rings are the ultimate hardcore grip strength test from Rogue. If you want to train in the highest levels you will probably get the anvil grip and the dinnie rings. If I had to choose between the two, which I wouldn’t as I am a sucker for complete training sets, I would go for the dinnie rings instead of the anvil grip as it is the cooler record to chase.
Conclusion for the anvil grip
The anvil grip is a must-have for any serious strongman or strength athlete who is serious about their grip. It is cheaper to co nine the anvil grip with a loading pin than to get anvils of different weights. If you want to save money and start out with grip strength training I would recommend going with a combination of pinch blocks and cannonballs first and then graduate to dinnie rings and the anvil at a later point when those get to easy / you have reached your goals on those.
Rogue Bone pull up bar
Overview of the Bone pull up bar
Price: $85.50
The rogue bone pull up bar is a thick little bar with a sphere at each end to hold on to. This makes it an interesting tool to attach to barbells, kettlebells, dumbbells, or your rack. You can use it for pull-ups and most other pulling motions. The full specifications of the rogue dog bone are:
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Length: 19"
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Height: 5"
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5" diameter sphere on each end
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3" diameter center section
This is a good tool that combines a sphere and a thick bar. If you want to save me eh and space it is a hood option for grip training.
Pros of the bone pull up bar
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Compact design
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Low price
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Good grip
As with all the steel products from rogue the dog bone is so one in its design and excellent in its execution. You get many grip variations on one compact surface to use in your home gym or commercial gym for a comparatively low price when you get the separate tools. As the finish is the same as for rogue kettlebells and other metal you will also have a good grip.
Cons of the bone pull up bar
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Small space for your hands
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Not a sphere and not a fat bar
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Only works as a single
As this design is very compact it is very easy to be on a part of the dog bone that is neither straight nor a sphere, but somewhere in between. Climbers might like this but for lifters, that is not really ideal. It will also be hard to use two Dog bones in two weights so the assumption is that you will always lift one weight with two hands. This limits options compared to cannonballs or pinch blocks considerably that come in free moving pairs.
Alternatives to the bone pull bar
The crown pull up bar is pricier and also needs to be attached to the rack. So it assumes that you already have invested in a home gym whereas the dog bone also can work by itself. That being said, if your main interest is pull-ups and hanging holds, the Crown pull up bar is far superior to the dog bone. The distinction between bar and sphere is clearer. You also have different sized spheres and angled bars for a truckload if pull up variations. If you have a rack, spend the extra money, it’s worth it.
If you are looking into the dog bone to increase your grip strength rather than improving your pull-ups than the cannonball grips might be the better option. You get a pair of them for a lower price and they form perfect spheres. As you can order them with carabiners and steals you can hook them up with many different weights to vary your training. This makes your training more symmetrical and does not assume that you always have both hands on the weight like with the dog bone.
The monster lite pull up spheres are a compromise between the crib pull up bar and the dog bone. The spheres attach directly to a rack for pull-ups. They are cheaper than the dog bone and the crown pull up bar and are there a good option to buy in bulk for grip and pull up training for commercial gyms, as long as they fit your rack.
The conclusion to the bone pull up bar
The rogue bone pull-up bar is a great tool to get when you want to create a climbing area with your rack. Hang multiple grip tools like pinch blocks, spheres, and dog bones in there to create a little climbing park. That assumes you have a rig or some daisy-chained racks to climb around in. Home gym owners are in my opinion better off to invest in a set of cannonballs or pinch blocks for roughly the same price to train their grip.
Rogue Wrist roller
Overview of the rogue wrist roller
Price: $65 -$105
The Rogue wrist roller is their take on the classic strength tool to develop a better grip and forearms. Many have used one or even built one themselves. As with all products from Rogue, this is just a bigger version of what you would normally get from an average fitness supplier. The rogue wrist roller can be used free-standing or attached to a Monster lite or Infinity rack. The full specifications of the Rogue wrist roller are:
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Made in the USA
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Available in Handheld or Rack-Mounted options
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Rackmount Roller compatible with 3x3" Monster Lite Series and 2x3" Infinity Series (using retro-fit kit)
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Total Length: 15.5" freestanding, 17.5" rack mount
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Handles: 2” diameter, 6" handle width on either side of strap housing
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Strap: Black Nylon, 58.5”, includes carabiner that can hook back to the strap after the weight is loaded
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Color: Black
This is a solid wrist roller which is especially interesting for someone who does not like the cheaper wooden and plastic ones that you would normally get, still come there are other things you can spend your money on with Rogue.#
Pros of the rogue wrist roller
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Overbuilt
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Rack-mountable
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Does not look cheap
The challenge with most wrist rollers is that they just look like cheap toys. They do the trick but they are just awkward tools that me your home gym look more cluttered with things flying about. Not so much with the Rogue wrist roller. This will fit in nicely with your existing rogue equipment and will look professional. The Rackmount makes it possible to go very heavy on the wrist rolling if you are experienced.
Cons of the rogue wrist roller
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Price
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Simple product
The challenge with the wrist roller is the price. As it is something very simple to build yourself or get very cheap at your local shop, you might as well spent your money on something else from Rogue to train your strength. For $60 - $100, you can get cannonballs, pinch blocks, or the grandfather clock grips.
Alternatives to the rogue wrist roller
Alternatives to the Rogue wrist roller are:
The cannonball grips are one of the easier grip training tools from Rogue. They are roughly the same price as the Rogue wrist roller and can be attached to kettlebells, dumbbells, barbells. They are also a great variation on pull-ups and good for beginners in grip strength who want to start mixing things up a little without getting frustrated.
The Rogue pinch blocks take grip training to the next level. As you take your palms out of the equation these tools of the trade are hard to master even for experienced strength athletes. You can use them to hang from or attach them to kettlebells, dumbbells, and barbells. The pinch grip blocks are a great tool and present for someone who has most of the other strength tools and wants to get even better.
That grandfather clock grips are also part of Rogue's grip strength tool ensemble. This is an easier attachment to work with for beginners.
Conclusion for the rogue wrist roller
If you want a fancy wrist roller, this one is for you. As with everything with Rogue, this is overbuilt, solid and will look like quality. Still, a wrist roller is easily gotten in a lovely fitness shop that is made DIY. If you go through the trouble of ordering from Rogue I would lean more towards cannonballs, pinch blocks, and grandfather grips.
Rogue Neutral grip
Overview of the Rogue Neutral grip
Price: $65
The rogue neutral grip is an addition to Rogue racks that come standard with the fat skinny bar. With this attachment, you can do neutral grip pull-ups for a small price of $65. Compared to other options it is probably one of the cheaper ones. The full specifications of the Rogue neutral grip are:
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Handle Length: 7"
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Handle Diameter: 1.25"
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Overall Height: 11"
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Not compatible with Rogue monster
This is a good quick fix if you do not mind some scratches on your equipment.
Pros of the Rogue neutral grip
Pros of the rogue neutral grip are:
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Fast
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Cheap
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Small
This is an easy setup to quickly do neutral pull-ups on Rogue setup that otherwise would not allow for pull-ups or would need a wrench to swap cross members/attachments. Just throw them on and get going. With a little bit of tale attached to them, you can also avoid the scratching through the metal to metal contact.
Cons of the Rogue neutral grip
Cons of the rogue neutral grip are:
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Unstable
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Metal to metal contact
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Not versatile
These grips will go into your monster lite or infinity rack but will not be as clean and secure as a proper pull-up bar. It can shift a little and therefore also scratch your rack. In addition, it will be cumbersome to attach these hooks to any other weight to lift it which makes them pretty much single-use.
Alternatives to the rogue neutral grip
Alternatives to the rogue neutral grip:
The Rogue XM43 neutral grip rotating pull up attachment is a full specialized pull-up attachment for the monster lite and monster series. Compared to the neutral grips it can be wrenched onto a cross-member, has rotating handles, and several positions to work from. This is the professional tool from Rogue for a neutral grip from a rack rather than the makeshift pins for $60. with $445 it also costs more than seven times more than the simple grips.
The crown pull up bar is an attachment for the rogue monster lite and monster series that provides a neutral grip pull up setup amongst others. You will also get several other pull up setups and two different sized spheres. If straight pull-ups are your jam, this is a very good attachment to invest in. The crown would be an investment of $225.
A multi-grip cross-member is an option that can be attached at the top of your rack. With this, you have several grip width options for a neutral grip in a stable setup. As long as your ceiling is high enough and you want to neutral grip pull-ups this comes in at $182.50 and is, therefore, great value for money option as an alternative to the neutral grips. In this setup, you will also not scratch the existing rack.
Conclusion for the rogue neutral grip
The Rogue neutral grip is a good quick fix when you have quite a few of the parallel fat/skinny bars which Rogue used to deliver with their racks in the past. With the monster lite and monster racks series this item becomes shipped far less and therefore did not age well. The fact, that the neutral grips scratch the existing material does not make it a preferred option if you can invest a little more money. I would always prefer to attach a crown pull-up bar or XM 43M multi-grip cross member to achieve the same result.
Rogue Parallel Landmine handle
Overview of the Rogue parallel landmine handle
Price: $62.50
The Rogue parallel Landmine handle is an upgrade to the usual triangle grips that are used with barbells. Often triangle grips are just put on the barbell without a proper a sleeving mechanism. This provides a less secure set up that also scratches your bar. The Rogue parallel Landmine provides a sleeve that neatly fits your barbell in. This means heavier weights to pull and less damage to your bar. The full specifications of the rogue parallel Landmine handle are:
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Made in the USA
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For use with Rogue Landmine and/or Rogue Post Landmine, Rogue Monster Landmine, Rogue Double Landmines
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Handle Length: 8.75" (Handle)
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Handle Diameter: 1.9" fat grip, 1.3" standard
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Handle Finish: Signature Black Powder Coat
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0.25" thick Laser-Cut Steel Plating with Rogue branding
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Total Weight: 12LB
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Compatible with any standard Oly barbell
This is a good option for a commercial gym that wants to provide for T bar rows without wrecking the equipment. For a home gym, this might be a bit too bulky for single use.
Pros of the Rogue parallel landmine handle
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Two-handle options
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Good sleeve
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Robust build
The rogue parallel Landmine provides you with a fat grip and a normal grip option. The fat grip is very interesting if you want to improve your grip. The sleeve is well made and fits many barbells in a snug way. Good to get any kind of t bar rows going. As with al ist every rogue product, it is overbuilt and nearly unbreakable.
Cons of the Rogue parallel landmine handle
Cons of the Rogue parallel Landmine:
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Very big
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Single-use
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No hole for a carabiner
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Needs Landmine to function
Compared to other triangular handles the rogue version is massive. There is no way you will fit this monster into your gym bag. $62.50 is also not the full price for your t bar row setup. You will also need a Landmine $75 - $125 depending on your preference. This handle can also not be used with any low row or large pull setups as it misses the hole to attach a carabiner for the cable.
Alternatives to the Rogue parallel landmine handle
The rogue T bar row is a fully functioning stand-alone rowing machine. The only thing you need to add for t bar rows is plates. This makes it a great machine to save time when you have space and money. The t-bar row will roughly set you back $600.
The single Landmine handle is half the cost of the double and does the same thing as the parallel for one hand. It also smaller and therefore easier to store. The only downside is that you can not go as heavy on one arm rows.
The back widow is a handle that can be used as a lat pull bar, deadlift jack, and Landmine row attachment for barbells. If you have the $300 I think it is the best option for home gyms to cover all of these applications without creating clutter.
Conclusion for the Rogue parallel landmine handle
The rogue parallel Landmine handle does what it says on the tin. For t bar rows it is a better option than a triangular handle without a sleeve. For home gyms, I think the back widow is a better option if you can afford it. Commercial gyms might want to get a t-bar station if space allows. The setup with a barbell, handle and Landmine almost comes to the same price as a proper station.
Rogue Monster grip triangle
Overview of the monster grip triangle
Price: $60 - $67.50
The rogue monster grip triangle is a great attachment to any cable machine you might already have in your home gym. It is beefy and overbuilt as Rogue equipment should be. You will get a great handle to do pulldowns and ab training, depending on your goals. The full specifications are:
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Handle Diameter: 2"
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6" Between Handle
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Laser-cut and welded steel parts
This is a sturdy handle that will not break on you. It also has a little indenture for t bar rows. Just be aware that this might scratch the barbell and the handle as well.
Pros of the monster grip triangle
The pros of the rogue monster grip handle are:
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Big
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Heavy
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Extra mold
This handle can be lit through a lot of abuse. It will also work for the biggest of hands among us. The mold also has been redesigned to take a barbell better than a simple straight one.
Cons of the monster grip triangle
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Size
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No knurling
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Single-purpose
With its size, the monster triangle can pose a problem with lat pull-downs that are calibrated for smaller handles. This means that when you have no weight attached the monster triangle is more likely to fall on your head than smaller handles which have been balanced out. Compared to other ha does there is also no knurling on the monster triangle. You might prefer more grip. Compared to other options like the back widow the no star triangle is also not very versatile.
Alternatives to the monster grip triangle
Alternatives to the monster grip triangle are:
The Rogue stainless steel lat bar is the standard bar that comes with all lat pulldown machines from rogue. This lat pull bar is made of stainless steel with aggressive knurling and is superior to what you would normally find in the market. The only downsides are the price that is about triple of the triangle and that it does not provide a neutral grip position. In exchange, you can go very wide on your grip.
The back widow is the most versatile cable and barbell attachment Rogue currently offers in their shop. It can be used for lat pulls, rows, as a deadlift jack, and for t bar rows. The only downside is the price tag of $300 which compares to 5 low price attachments.
The standard triangle from Rogue costs the same, but is less overbuilt and has knurling. If you want something that looks and feels more like what you are used to from a commercial gym, just with the extra Rogue love in production, than this is the place to go.
Conclusion for the monster grip triangle
The monster grip triangle is great for everyone who likes their equipment big and heavy. A home gym user should carefully consider whether they purchase one back widow for all their attachment needs or rather have multiple attachments cluttering your gym. Professional gyms are probably better off traveling down the route of getting six attachments for $60, one of them being the monster triangle. This way you can keep more people happy at the same time against the same budget.
Rogue Monster lite Pull up spheres
Overview of the Rogue monster lite pull up spheres
Price: $57.50
The rogue monster pull up spheres are compatible with the monster lite and I do its racks and rigs from Rogue. You can combine several spheres on a rig to create a nice climbing Parcours or attach them to your rack to train your grip. The spheres are available in two sizes for progression. The full specifications of the spheres are:
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Made in America
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Diameter options: 5"
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Sold in Pairs
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9-gauge Steel Construction with Black Powdercoat
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Compatible with standard RML-3, RML-4, RML-6 Power Racks and Monster Lite Rigs with XML-70 Beam or 43" Monster Lite crossmembers
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Thread optimized for 3" depth tubing of a crossmember/upright with 0.625" diameter holes
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For safety reasons, any rack should be securely fastened to the ground before using Pull-Up Spheres
This is a little extra, especially in a facility with a long rig to switch things around a little.
Pros of the rogue monster lite pull up spheres
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Cheap
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Compact
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Nice switch up
The monster lite spheres are relatively cheap for Rogue equipment. At $50 you get a nice pair which will do you or your clients a great service for getting a better grip. They are easy to install and can be lit in different places, especially in a big rig or daisy-chained racks. They are also a nice alternative to a regular pull up bar.
Cons of the rogue monster lite pull up spheres
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Need to be attached to a rack
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Not compatible with monster series
Compared to other grip strength options the spheres only work in conjunction with a rack. That makes their use cases limited compared to the very similar cannonball grips. You can also not use them with the rogue monster series which is currently taking over the Rogue Production lines.
Alternatives to the rogue monster lite pull up spheres
The crown pull up bar comes in at $225-$255 depending on your type of rack. With this, you get two different sized spheres and all the straight pull up setups you can think of. The only downsides are the price and that it is not great for kipping pull-ups. This is a great option for any home gym owner to make the most of their space.
The cannonball grips are al ist the same idea as the spheres with the bonus that they can also be attached to barbells, kettlebells, and dumbbells. If you are more thinking about your grip strength than developing a better pull up, these might be the more versatile option with a very similar outcome. You will also not need to have a rack to attach them to.
The rogue climbing crossmember comes in at $85 and can be attached to the monster ted lite or monster series of Rogue. If you wanted to provide climbing options for your existing rig, this is the better option than the spheres. You pay minimally more and get many more grip options. For home gyms this probably the inferior choice as they usually lack the width or height to make the climbing crossmember fun.
Conclusion for the rogue monster lite pull up spheres
The pull up spheres are a nice addition in a corner of a big rig where you do not know what else to do to make it a little more exciting. They are also a good option when you want something a little wider in diameter than the cannonball grips. Otherwise, a crown pull up bar and/ cannonball might be the better investment for a home gym and the climbing crossmember for a commercial gym.
Grandfather Clock grip System
Overview of the Grandfather Clock grip system
Price: $56.50
The grandfather clock grip system is part of the grip system of Rogue. This system includes the Pinch blocks, cannonballs grips, grandfather clock, and globe. The grandfather attachments are one of the easiest out of the line up to master whereas the pinch blocks and the globe are at the harder end of the spectrum. The full specifications of this item are:
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Made in the USA
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Length: 6"
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Diameter: 1.875"
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Steel tube with welded loop
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Available to order with Rogue Grip System (straps and carabiners)
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Color: Black
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Knurling: None
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Applications: Towel Grip Pull-Ups, Farmer’s Carries, and more
This is a great addition to any gym framed by the rogue grip system. Ideally, you get all components in the set.
Pros of the Grandfather clock grip system
Pros of the grandfather clock grip system:
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Versatile
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Easy to use
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Cheap
Compared to other options to train your strength, the grandfather clock grip is relatively cheap. It can also be attached to various weights or racks using the strap and carabiner system from Rogue. This makes it easy to use, install, and transport. Not a lot you can do wrong with these.
Cons of the grandfather clock grip system
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Unstable
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Shorter than a climbing rope
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Easy to lose
The grandfather clock system is a great way to simulate rope climbs if you have low ceilings. Still, they are not a rope and therefore provide only a simulation and not the real thing. The grips will also be quite wobbly. If you don’t like this in your training go with an alternative that is attached to the rack like the spheres or the crown pull up bar. Apart from all of this, if you have a big gym, travel a lot, or have a lot of people using these grips, it is easy to lose them.
Alternatives to the grandfather clock grip system
The Rogue climbing cross-member simulates a climbing wall on your rogue rack. A couple of these will work best when installed on a longer rig or daisy-chained racks. This setup is only minimally more expensive at $85 and provides stable grips which will be more challenging for your finger strength. This is the better option when you want to train for actual climbing and you do not want to get every tool under the sun.
A climbing rope is a classic tool to train grip and arm strength. A good rope climber always has a strong grip, too. When I used to do Judo semi-professionally we always ended the session with ten ropes in camp. They are a great tool as long as you have a high ceiling. If you do not have a high ceiling or want to avoid heights, then the grandfather grips are an alternative, but no replacement for the real thing.
The crown pull up bar is the best pull up attachment you can get for your rack. In terms of value for money, you get many different grip variations for only $225. If you were to buy all the attachments to get to the same amount of variety you would pay more. You will get narrow, wide, and neutral pull-up setups and two different sized spheres.
The cannonball and pinch blocks are better options if you already have a climbing rope and want to save money. I see the pinch blocks, cannonball grips, and grandfather as a whole to be bought together and not separately. However, that can bring the bill to $300 -$500, which not everyone is willing to pay. If you get the whole set for your home gym, you will not regret it as it is versatile and keeps grip training interesting.
Conclusion for the grandfather clock grip system
The grandfather clock grip system is the best option from rogue to compress rope climbing into a confined. Combined with the pinch blocks and cannonballs you get a powerful grip orchestra. If you have space, hang a rope from your high ceiling to get even better results.
Rogue Ring power pin
Overview of the Rogue ring power pin
Price: $50 - $136.50
The Rogue ring power pin is a variation of the already existing power pin on the rogue line up. You will get a pin in which you can either slide the ring or t shape handle. If you already own a power pin you only need to pay $50 for the ring. This is a great tool for strongman training and leaves more options for attachments than the t shape power pin. The full specifications are:
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Made in America
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Diameter: 1.96" loading pin, 4.5" ring
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Length: 12" loadable length
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Weight:12.5LB, 500+LB weight capacity
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10 holes spaced 1” on center for an adjustable height range of 19.75” to 28.75”
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Black Powder Coat Finish
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Available as Fully Assembled Unit or Just Handle (for use with original Rogue Power Pin)
A great tool that works by itself and can be easily attached, as long as you already have plates at home or in your gym.
Pros of the Rogue Ring power pin
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Adjustable height
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Work stand alone
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Easy to combine
The Rogue ring power pin is a great tool as it can be adjusted for different heights and simulates competition like the ducks walk or power stairs. While it works stand alone you can also combine it easily with other equipment because of the ring. Compared to the T shaped power pin this leaves you with more options to train for the same money spent. If you consider lifting the dinnie stones or just like a versatile strongman tool in your arsenal, this is a good and simple option.
Cons of the Ring power pin
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Hidden cost
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Not great for swings
The Rogue ring power pin assumes that you already have plates. While that is a fair assumption for most gyms with strongmen in them, it is still not factored into the cost. If you load this pin with a respectable weight, the total setup easily amounts to $300 - $600 depending on which weight you use. This makes one or two heavy kettlebells a more economical choice for a home gym that does not have plates. In addition to this, the pin is easy to adjust the height. Make sure you attach it somehow to the loading pin or the ring.
Alternatives to the Rogue ring power pin
The T-bar power pin comes in at the same price and is just a different way of training. On many heavy events in strongman like safe lifts, you will find a t-bar rather than a ring to hold onto. Serious athletes will probably get the T bar power pin and the ring insert at the same time. Just be careful when you order that you do not order the loading pin double unless you want to.
Rogue also offers a classic loading pin that hooks to a carabiner. Including strap and carabiner, this comes to $39 and is under the price of the Ring power pin. This is the right pin to get if you get the pinch blocks, cannonballs, and grandfather grips for lifts. You can also use the power ring which makes the weights swing a little more when lifted which adds complexity. If you are preparing to lift the Dinnie rings, get the power pin rather than hooking the carabiners directly up to the loading pin. This is a better predictor of the true load.
For any weekend warrior, heavy kettlebells are probably the way better option. They cost less and can also be combined with carabiners for farmers walks and holds. The only downside is that you can not load them incrementally. But that is beside the point if you do not have space, want, or money for plates anyway.
Conclusion for the Rogue ring power pin
I think that the Rogue ring power pin is better to buy than the T bar power pin if you have to make yourself choose. It is more versatile and cost the same. Of course, why make yourself choose and just get both. If you do not have plates, it is probably more economical to get the grip system from rogue and two to three different denominations of kettlebells as that is more space-efficient and leaves you with a wider range of exercises.
Rogue Cannonball grips
Overview of the Rogue cannonball grips
Price $47.25 - $67.50
The Rogue cannonball grips are a great tool to develop better grip strength. They are versatile and can be attached to a rack, kettlebell, dumbbell, or barbell. They come with a 3" diameter and in black or tan color. You can opt to get a carabiner and strap set with it or just the balls themselves. The full specifications are:
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3" diameter spheres with signature Rogue powder coat
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1/4” thick steel tab with a hole to mount to a carabiner
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Length: 12" strap
These are a must for any gym that is serious about strength. Versatile, cheap, and fun to use.
Pros of the Rogue cannonball grips
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Versatile
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Cheap
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Fun
I am personally a huge fan of the cannonball grips as they are good for beginners but can also be used by pros in as many setups as you can come up with. By having less and less of your hand and fingers touch the cannonballs while doing your exercises you can modulate how hard this exercise becomes. Look beyond just gripping the ball in full and you will have a training tool for life for as cheap as a big feast at the fast-food chain of your choice.
Cons of the Rogue cannonball grips
Cons of the Rogue cannonball grips are:
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Set up
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Organic weight lift
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Easy to lose parts
As these need to be set up with straps and a carabiner this is not for everyone. The weights can sometimes hang awkwardly from the balls, depending on how symmetrical the load is. Some people will welcome this as an additional challenge while others will smash in their chins. In addition to that, the parts can be easily lost, especially when people do not take care. If you want to offer grip training without these hassles, the rack attached spheres are a better option.
Alternatives to the Rogue cannonball grips
The Rack mounted spheres are a little more expensive and work with the Monster lite and Infinity series of Rogue. These spheres will be stable and also will not get lost. If you want a stationary setup for grip training with spheres, this is the better option, as long as you have something to attach them to.
The crown pull up bar is the king attachment for straight pull-ups. If you are all about improving your straight pull-ups with different grips, this attachment for the monster lite or monster rack has it all. It comes in at $225 and is a great piece of equipment for a home gym to cover all the bases. The only downside is that it is not great for kipping pull-ups.
If you are into climbing and consider the cannonballs for this purpose you might be better off with the wall climbing cross-member for $85. You get a lot more grip variations than with the cannonballs for just a little more money. The downside is that they can not be attached to other weights.
The pinch blocks and the grandfather clock grip attachments can be seen as separate purchases. The grandfather clock is a little easier while the pinch blocks are a lot harder. I see them as one set. If you consider the cannonballs you want to get a better grip. Then you can get a great system with the pinch block, grandfather clock, and cannonball attachment. Of course, that pushes the price tag to $300 - $500 depending on what combination of loading pins and attachment you get. Worth it. Just pay attention to detail with the straps when your order.
Conclusion for the Rogue cannonball grips
The cannonball grips are a must-have for anyone who wants to get a great grip. Home gym owners can start with this for all kind of carries and pull-ups. Commercial gym owners will find that the cannonballs are the most accessible tool for beginners to get into grip strength training. The grandfather clock grips can be too slippy and not everyone likes using chalk. Captains of Crush grippers can be harsh on the hands and too challenging.
Dinnie ring set
Overview of the Dinnie ring set
Price: $45
The dinnie ring set is not for the faint-hearted. You will get bare metal rings which are anything but smooth. These have been modeled after the famous dinnie stones in Scotland which have been a legend to lift among strongmen for decades. As such they are handmade from metal and show their raw finish. The specifics of these rings are:
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Strongman Rings - Grip Strength, Ring Lifting Exercises
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Sold In Pairs
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Hand-Forged in Logan, OH
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American Steel construction
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Large and Small Size Options
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No 2 Rings are Identical
You will get two rings, one small, one big. Use them wisely.
Pros of the Dinnie ring set
Pros of the dinnie ring set:
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Hardcore
If you use these rings as handles for most of your lifts, you will not fail in competition on grip strength. Almost any kind of handle you will face in a strongman competition will be smoother and more forgiving on your hands unless it is an ancient metal like the handles of the dinnie stones themselves. If you want to lift these stones, the dinnie rings re also the best way to prepare for it.
Cons of the Dinnie ring set
Cons of the dinnie ring set:
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Almost certain to rip a callus or two
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Cumbersome setup
As these rings are not smooth and unfinished they will rip some calluses and hurt some hands. Just be sure that you have the kind of clients that take rawness over comfort in their training. Otherwise, you might get some puzzled looks or members canceling their subscription. As with most rings, it takes getting used to how to set up the straps and loop them to a carabiner to make it work.
Alternatives to the Dinnie ring set
The gymnastic wooden rings might be the better choice if you want round handles for some lifts, but be easy on the hands. These can also be used for several calisthenics exercises.
The Rogue echo rings are a more economical alternative to the gymnastic wood rings. If you buy in bulk these are the better option. If you buy for yourself tread you to the feel of wood. It's worth it.
If you are looking into the Dinnie rings for strongman purposes you can also opt for the Rogue ring power pin. This will be easier to set up for your lifts and be more forgiving on your hands.
Conclusion for the Dinnie ring set
The dinnie rings are a very specialized application of strength. They can be fun, but can also turn into a pain in the backside when you do not know how to use them. If you are already familiar with working with straps and carabiners on your strength training, this is a nice addition to your arsenal. If you aren't, stay way clear of them.
Rogue Pinch Blocks
Overview of the Rogue pinch blocks
Price: $49-$62.50
The Rogue Pinch blocks are simple but effective. They come in three different sizes, 3x3,2x3, and 1.5x4. The thinner the block, the harder it is to hold onto. This is a simple tool that will improve your grip for a long time to come and has many applications. You can hold weights or hand from a rack as long as possible. As with all rogue products the finish is great and they hold chalk well.
Pros of the Rogue pinch blocks
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Cheap
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versatile
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Hardcore
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Easy on the hands
The pinch blocks are relatively cheap and have a big impact on your grip strength. They are easy to use, as long as you know your way around a carabiner and a strap. Compared to other hardcore training tools for your grip, they are easier on the hands and less likely to rip your calluses and skin on the fingers.
Cons of the Rogue Pinch blocks
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Not for beginners
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Carabiner and strap setup
Pinch grip blocks are challenging and therefore not for beginners. If you consider buying without any prior experience in grip training, be prepared to get frustrated fast. In this case, you might be better off to get a set of low-level Captain of Crush grippers or the grandfather clock grips. The setup with a carabiner and strap is also not for everyone as it can be fiddly.
Alternatives to the Rogue pinch blocks
The cannonball and grandfather grip have roughly the same price. Both of them are easier for beginners than the Pinch blocks if you want to progress slowly. I personally see them as a set to be bought together to keep things interesting, but not everyone wants to invest that much money from the start for something they are not sure about.
If you prefer to work with a bar rather than an attachment to a random weight than the branch and beam are for you. The branch and beam are bars that have been made fat to be better for grip strength training. They are a good option to train lifts in strongman competitions like lifting wagon wheels or car axles.
Conclusion for the Rogue pinch blocks
The pinch blocks are a must for anyone serious about strength training. They are a good purchase together with the cannonball and grandfather grips. Be aware, that these are the more advanced options and that you will start humbled. With time, your hands will turn into beasts.
Twist yo wrist
Overview of the Twist yo wrist
Price: $42.95
The twist yo wrist is a take from Ironmind on the classic wrist roller to develop underarm strength. It is compact and portable. With any product from Ironmind, you can be sure that it has been optimized to be serious for grip strength. They cut the fat and nonsense out of every product and focus on what matters. The full specifics of the Twist yo wrist are:
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Grip, Wrist & Forearm Training
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4" Diameter Roller
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4' Climbing-Grade Accessory Cord Climbing-Grade Cord Accessory
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Small Snap Clip
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Color: Black
A great tool to have when you are on the road.
Pros of the Twist yo wirst
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Low price
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Compact
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Great finish
As with all Ironmind products, you will get quality. This is the optimal underarm trainer for rolling. Small, affordable, and easy to deploy. What more could you ask of an accessory tool for your training?
Cons of the Twist yo wrist
The cons of the twist yo wrist are:
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Gimmicky
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Limited load
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A bit too small
If you are mainly getting a wrist roller to attack your underarms this might not be ideal. As the surface is a little small you will be picking away at it with your fingertips a lot more than with your entire hand. Great if you want to train your fingers for climbing. A bit beside the point if all you want is to grip a barbell harder for deadlifts. It depends on your goals, but this can be a bit gimmicky if you mainly work with a barbell. On the other hand, if you want your fingers to become suction cups, here is your weapon of choice.
Alternatives to the twist yo wrist
Alternatives to the twist yo wrist:
If you want to run less risk of buying something gimmicky, buy some Captain of crush grippers. These are more suited to the general needs of the public, as most people need a better crush grip for their barbell and dumbbell training.
If you are looking to maximize the load for your wrist rolls, the rogue wrist roller is the right option to pick. You can use your entire hand on both sides and even attach it to the rack. The only downside is the price.
Conclusion for the Twist yo wrist
The twist yo wrist is so cheap that you can not go wrong. You probably have bought booze that you could not open that cost more. That being said it is a better tool to run your fingers into mean suckers rather than your underarms into popeye version of themselves. This is based in that the surface is too small to get your full hands on them.
