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Rogue Monster Lat pull down stand alone vs TITAN plate loaded deltoid machine

Written by Pascal Landshoeft | Dec 25, 2020 5:00:00 PM

Rogue Monster Lat pull down stand alone vs TITAN plate loaded deltoid machine

This is a comparison of the Rogue Monster Lat pull and the TITAN plate loaded deltoid machine including pros, cons, and alternatives. Follow the links for more details.

 

Overview and review of the TITAN plate loaded deltoid machine $479.99

This is an overview of the TITAN plate loaded deltoid machine including pros, cons and alternatives. This article was originally posted in Which gym machine to get from TITAN. Follow the links for additional information.

 

Overview of the TITAN Plate loaded deltoid machine

 
The TITAN plate loaded deltoid machine is another two in one machine from TITAN. With this machine you can do seated presses and deltoid raises. The machine is solid, but nur overbuilt. Resistance is added by loading plates on the respective pins. The machine fits standard Olympic plates. This is a great machine for a home gym with more than average floor space. In a commercial gym you might wan to get two separate machines with their own weight stacks. The full list of features for the TITAN deltoid machine includes:
 
- Independent arm movement
- Shoulder press sealed bearings
- Olympic sized plate sleeves
- Adjustable seat height to fit athletes of all sizes
- Square steel tube frame construction
- Shoulder press has (2) sets of stationary handles
- Delt raise has 10-in. forearm pads with fixed handles
- Includes rubber feet for secure contact
 
- Overall Height (U-Frame Extended Up): 65-in.
- Overall Length: 39-in.
- Overall Width: 35-in.
- Back Pad Dimensions: 18-in x 9.75-in x 2.25-in.
- Seat Pad Dimensions: 10.5-in x 11.25-in x 2.25-in.
- Arm Pad Dimensions: 10-in x 5-in x 1.75-in.
- Sleeve Diameter: 50 mm.
- Weight Sleeve Length: 9.75-in.
- Handle Length: 5.25-in.
- Finish: Powder-Coated Black
- Material: 2-in x 2-in 11-GA Steel
- Weight Capacity: 700 lb.
- Product Weight: 149 lb.
 
Great machine for anyone who has the space in their backyard or basement gym and does not want to shell out money for two separate machines.
 

Pros of the TITAN Plate loaded deltoid machine

 
The pros of the TITAN deltoid machine are:
 
  • 2 in 1 design
  • Price
  • Plate loaded
 
The two in one design of this machine saves space and cost. This is especially interesting for anyone who wants to but a big home gym for themselves. If your clients are into loading plates on a machine it might even be for a commercial gym.
 
As with all TITAN products the deltoid machine is optimized for price. This means that it undercuts the competition by almost half and therefore makes your dollars last longer.
 
The fact that this machine is plate loaded means that you also save on paying for the weight stack that normally comes with machines. If you already have plates and do not mind loading and loading them in the machine, this is another welcome saving.
 

Cons of the TITAN plate loaded deltoid machine

 
 
  • Plate loaded
  • Build
  • Space requirements
 
Having a plate loaded machine is great when you are a single person in a basement. It is also ok in a that has a few people around who know what they are doing. This would be a private gym or dedicated powerlifting and weightlifting gym where the general public feels too intimidated to train. In a commercial gym for the masses you are better off with a weight stack for your machines. This results in fewer opportunities to trip up, the clients are in and out quicker and fewer plates for the staff to clean up.
 
This machine is been built with the average make in mind, which also holds true for almost all TITAN products. As TITAN uses as much material as necessary, but not more that makes things cost effective. That does not mean that TITAN has the most stable and durable equipment in the market. Rogue and Eleiko follow the philosophy of overbuilding their products. This means you pay more but your stuff is also bullet proof. This is a other reason why TITAN is a great choice for the average Joe who builds a massive gym. If you are a monster, professional lifter, or run a gym with a crowd of roid rage fanatics, than you need to step up a little.
 

Alternatives to the TITAN plate loaded deltoid machine

 
 
The TITAN plate loaded neck machine is an alternative to the deltoid machine to train your your neck. It comes in at roughly the same price as the deltoid machine and therefore might be something to think about for anyone who wants to strengthen their neck.
 

Conclusion for the TITAN plate loaded deltoid machine

 
This is a great 2 in 1 machine for the spacious home gym and fits right in this TITAN strategy. TITAN has multiple of these plate loaded machines that downtown things to save time and space. For a commercial gym this machine might be a little too haphazard but for home use it is ideal, as long as your basement, garage, of attic is big enough to take a rack and a couple of machines.
 

Overview and review of the Rogue Monster Lat pull down stand alone 

 

Price: 2.950

This review was originally posted in the longer article "Which strength equipment to buy from rogue" in which you can read about 25 products of Rogue which cost more than 1.000$. The Rogue Monster lat pull down will create more bats in your gym. See the details in this article.

 

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Overview of the Rogue Monster Lat pull down

 
The Monster Lat pulldown Standalone is a lat pulldown machine for the expert athlete. As with all Rogue equipment this machine is built like a tank. The lat pulldown machine is a great example of how Rogue takes pride in what they do and takes their customer feedback series. 
 
If you read between the lines you can see that the pulley, the bar, cable, and Steel eye were not up to Rogue's standards in the V1 of this machine. All of these parts have been consequently brought in-house and are not bought from 3rd parties anymore. These things are normal when new production lines are being built, a new market is tested and new processes build around them.
 
At least Rogue took the right learnings from this and perfected their Rhino launch. The prone leg curl and the ISO leg press have not gotten a V2 overhaul yet whereas the Lat pull down has. Be aware of this when you buy from Rogue. I am positive they will accommodate valid feedback, especially on big orders. If you buy for your home gym, maybe wait on the leg press and curl until there is more feedback available or find a gym nearby to test them.
 
The Rogue Lat pulldown weighs 605lb and offers up to 300lb resistance in plates in 10lb increments. It has a footprint of 40'' by 60''. It is 60'' long, 40'' wide and 96'' high. The steel notes are 3x3 11-gauge steel just like the rest of the Rogue Monster series.
 

Pros of the Rogue Monster lat pull down

 
This lat pulldown is also a rowing machine so you get two for the price of one. The difference to many other rowing machines is that Rogue came up with an idea that does not make the bench longer. By positioning a footrest under the seat this lat pulldown machine turns into a rowing machine without adding extra length. 
 
Another big pro is that this machine allows the use of bands with the lat pull. This is very unique and I have not seen many machines like this. Especially when you have experienced athletes you will appreciate that you can work with bands.
 

Cons of the Rogue Monster Lat pull down

 

A lat pulldown is a big machine. It will take up quite a bit of space where a pull-up bar might create a similar effect. Especially in a home gym scenario, you might be better off getting dumbbells and a pull-up bar which takes up less floor space. As with other machines, the pulley system takes maintenance. Oiling this system and keeping it in check might not be for everyone.
 

How many clients do you need for the lat pull down?

 
If you think that the Lat pulldown will bring you 10 new clients who pay you 50$ on a 1-year retainer it is worth the investment. This will yield 6.000$ net new revenue against an investment of 2.950$. Adjust the numbers for your own gym accordingly.
 

Alternatives to the Lat pull down from Rogue

 
Here are some alternatives to the Rogue lat pull down
 
1x Rhino belt Squat Rack @ 2750$
 
The Rhino belt including the half rack will give you a better pulley system and the necessary rack to play around with it. It will not exactly be the same and the workarounds might be not ideal, however, it is possible. I would also be very surprised if Rogue did not capitalize on the opportunity to deliver a system that combines the RM6 and Rhino to a fully built all-purpose gym station. Stay tuned for that one.
 
1x Monster Lite Rig @ 2.495$
 
A monster lite rig will provide you with
 
  • 4 Squat/ Bench Stations
  • 8 Pull up Stations
 
For less than the price for one lat pulldown machine. If you are aiming to open a small CrossFit gym this is the way to go. This also shows you that Rogue still has to work on optimizing their costs on building machines. The upshot is that you will get a machine that is fully made in the US. If you work for the government this might even be a requirement for purchase. 
 

Conclusion

The Rogue Monster lat pull down is a very solid machine for your gym. If you do not want to compromise and attract the biggest and best athletes to your gym, this is the one to go for. 
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