Rogue pegboard vs Rogue P-4 pull up system
This is a comparison of the Rogue Pegboard and the Rogue P-4 pull up system that looks at the pros, cons, and alternatives for this product. Follow the links for additional detail.
Overview and review of the Rogue R-4 pull up system
This is an overview of the Rogue P-4 pull up sytsem that looks at the pros, cons, and alternatives for this product. Follow the links for additional detail.
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Overview of the Rogue P4 pull up system
Price $145 to $420
The Rogue P-4 pull up system provides you with a lot of space to perform kipping pull-ups or muscle-ups with a lot of clearing to the wall or ceiling. This System can be either installed directly on the wall or hang from the ceiling. The extra steel beam gives you extra support when you throw your full weight at the construction. On top of this, you can use multiple P4 brackets to daisy chain together the entire length of the wall for pull stations. A great option to fill a wall that is currently not being used for many exercises. The specifics of the P4 system are:
- 1x2" 11-Gauge Steel
- Depth: 30" from wall/ceiling
- Width: Can be set on 16" Stud Centers or custom width up to 48" between brackets
- Total Length: You can add brackets for miles by putting brackets in a row. 1"/1.25" Pipe can be purchased from local tube supplier in 24' lengths.
- Orientation: This unit can be setup vertically or horizontally, our unique support arm will keep this rig sturdy!
- Mounting Hardware NOT included.
If you know your way with a drill and in a home depot, the P4 system leaves you with a lot of options without having to do too much welding and customizing yourself.
Pros of the P-4 Pull-up system
- Big clearance to wall or ceiling
- Versatile
- Extra beam for stability
The
P-4 is the right choice when you want to separate your pull-ups from your
rack. Especially for circuit training and kipping pull-ups this is a better setup than doing your pull-ups directly on the
rack where you also store your plates, have a barbell racked and a bench in the way. The brackets come separately and therefore leave you with flexible setup options depending on where you want to mount them in your gym. The extra metal beam gives this pull up bar support, even if you throw a lot at it.
The cons of the P-4 Pull up system
- Some DIY required
- Only one grip variation
- Maybe too clunky for some for mounting on the ceiling
To mount this pull up system correctly to the wall you will need some DIY skills. You will not a drill that con anchor the system into the wall, need to make it level, and maybe go to the local home depot to get the right bar that fits your setup. If you are a handyman and do jobs around the house all the time, this is no big deal. If you are like me and do not even own a toolbox, you might want to stay away from this one. Compared to the
crown pull up bar you will only have a straight bar and Compared to the
P-6v you might find the steel rod to be in the way, especially when mounting the
P-4 on the ceiling.
Alternatives to the Rogue P-4 pull up system
The
jammer pull up bar is probably the easiest Rogue pull-up bar to install without buying a
rack. It comes with a backplate included and can be installed above a door by drilling some holes in the ground. This leaves little opportunity to measure wring or not getting the brackets level. If you are not great at DIY and want a pull-up bar in your home, the
jammer bar is the better choice.
The
P-3 is the same design as the
P-4 with a little less clearance to the wall or ceiling when it is setup. If you are a smaller athlete or do not have enough space to justify a
P-4, you can go with the
P-3 instead. Check the measurements form Rogue and also do some sketches in the room, before deciding between the
P3 and
P3 if space is an issue.
The
P-6v is, in my opinion, the better pull up bracket to install on the ceiling. How the steel is welded leaves less wear and tear in a ceiling set up for this pull-up system than for the
P-4. Both will work, but the
P-6v will give a smoother ride when hanging from the ceiling.
Conclusion for the P-4 pull-up system
If you are a taller athlete or train a group of taller athletes and want to daisy chain multiple pull-up stations together, this is the choice for you. If you do not have the clearance or deal with smaller athletes you can also go for the
P-3.If you have little to no DIY skills, but still want to get a Pull-up bar installed in your house, then the
Jammer Pull-up bar is the least painful choice to install without breaking the bank.
Overview and review of the Rogue pegboard
This is an overview of the Rogue pegboard that looks at the pros, cons and alternatives for this product. Follow the links for additional detail.
Overview of the Rogue Pegboard
Price $375 (Maple) / $275 (Pine) / $175/€202.50 (Pine with no metal plate)
The
Rogue Pegboard comes in three variations in the US and one in the EU. The PB1 is the cheapest with no metal plates and extra finish. The PB2 comes in maple or pine with metal plates and Polyurethane finish. This is a good addition to a home gym with high ceilings or any box gym that wants to add some
climbing options to their walls.
The full specifications read as follows:
- Made in the USA
- Wood Board available in Pine or Maple
- 95.625” tall x 11.75” wide x 1.5” thick
- 35 Staggered Holes
- 2 Pegs / Dowel Rods: Unfinished Hickory – 6.5” long, 1.19” diameter
- 6 Counter Bored Mounting Holes
- Mounting Hardware NOT Included
If you have a big gym and want to work with
pegboards a few more of these can create some interesting courses along a wall that is otherwise bare and has little to no training use. It will also train upper body strength in more various ways than just a pull-up bar. Still, this is not the only option from Rogue to get
some climbing options into your gym.
Pros of the Rogue pegboard
- Versatile
- Mixes things up
- Good quality wood
- Simple
This is a great training tool that has been around for decades in numerous variations. Especially if your ceilings are high and you can afford to place 3 - 8 of these across the wall, it can make for some fun challenges. You can weigh up the pros and cons compared to an actual
climbing wall, but that either needs more elbow grease by yourself or costs more to be installed by a professional company. This is a good little change to pull-ups and muscle-ups which also trains the eye to hand coordination. Instructors will not have to explain a lot for this training tool, so a good thing to buy when you have a spare wall that is unused in your facility or barn/garage gym.
Cons of the Rogue pegboard
- Needs high ceiling
- Needs professional installation
- Injury risk
- Pegs are separate
The
pegboard will have its best effect when you can install it somewhere between 180cms to 200cms height. Basically you want people to have to stretch their arms at least a little to reach the lowest pegs to get the best training effect. This is bad news for most home gym owners unless they live in a palace. If the
pegboard is installed with the top on eye level you will have to start from a seated position to
climb. This puts you quite far away from the wall and becomes very challenging. In this setup, you will most likely end up using the
pegboard as a storage unit rather than for its original intent.
If you know your way around a drill and a wall, you are more than welcome to put your faith into installing the
pegboard in a secure way. If you are not, you will have to get a professional in for the installation. Especially when your walls are concrete, this is not the easiest piece of equipment to buy from Rogue to install. The highest anchors will be 3 - 5 meters up the wall if you want to get the most out of the
pegboard.
Compared to regular pull up systems the injury risk is also higher. You will be higher up. The nature of the
climbing makes it more dangerous and you can also fall from higher up or scrape along the wall. Make sure, that you also get some mats under the
pegboard. Especially if you run a professional gym and you might be open to a court case if you do not provide proper mats under the
pegboard.
The last problem are the pegs themselves. This is not a big problem in a home gym, but in a professional gym, these tend to get lost or misplaced. Make sure you get a couple of spare ones on your original order and always get some new when you are notified that the pegs are lost. Otherwise, your fancy
climbing wall becomes unusable until the new pegs are delivered.
Alternatives to the pegboard
Alternatives to the pegboard are:
The
Rogue monkey rig is a fully functioning gym for multiple athletes at the same time. It is based on a
monster lite rig which has been combined with monkey bars to also provide a
climbing experience. If you have the ceiling for
pegboards to make sense, chances are high that you can also fit a
monkey rig into your facility. The biggest downside to the
monkey rig is the price. In return, you get a
climbing tool that is more accessible for beginners, bears lower injury risk, and leaves you open for more options. If you are currently in the market to build a gym in which you can also
climb, this is a good bet. Especially when you are starting from scratch.
If you already have a
Rogue Rig or daisy-chained multiple
Rogue power racks together, then the
Climbing hold cross members can be a good option. These will require less elbow grease to be installed and will also cost less than the
pegboard. Further advantages are lower injury risk and no problems with lost pegs. The downside is that
climbing on these will not be as rewarding and thrilling than racing up and down the pegboard.
Rogue climbing ropes are a cheap option to get upper body strength covered in your box. If your ceilings are high this is probably the cheapest way to get a lot of vertical climbing mileage in. It is low maintenance and time tested tool to develop grip and arm strength. The only downside is that
ropes need to be free-swinging and therefore take up more space than the
pegboard to achieve a similar training result. You will also need a bit of craftsmanship to secure them to the ceiling.
Summary for the Rogue pegboard
The
Rogue pegboard is a great climbing tool, especially if you have space for multiple across a large wall. Most home gym owners will probably struggle to find a proper space to install it unless they have a massive house or very high ceilings. For this price and you can also get a pull-up bar and a small kettlebell. This might leave you with more options for a starting home gym. For a professional gym this can make the difference between average and great on the fun scale.