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Rogue Monster Lite Rig 2.0 vs TITAN H-PND

Written by Pascal Landshoeft | Dec 22, 2020 5:00:00 PM

Rogue Monster Lite Rig 2.0 vs TITAN H-PND

This is a comparison between the Rogue Monster Lite rig and the TITAN H-PND including pros, cons, and alternatives. Follow the links for more details.

 
 

Overview and review of the TITAN H-PND $574

This is an overview of the TITAN H-PND including pros, cons and alternatives. This article was originally posted in Which gym machine to get from TITAN. Follow the links for additional information.

Overview of the TITAN H-PND

 
The TITAN H-PND is a reverse hyper that is built solid like a tank. With this machine you can attack your lower back and train up the area to improve your deadlift and the squat. The lower back is usually an area of your body that falls short with regular gym machines and barbell training. A reverse hyper like the H-PND can take care of this and make your back figuratively bullet proof. The full list of specifications for this model includes:
 
- Overall Weight: 250 lbs.
- Overall Height: 44.5-in
- Footprint: 52.25-in x 41-in
- Sleeve Diameter: 2-in
- Loadable Sleeve Length: 10-in
- Step Dimensions: 3-in x 3-in Tubing, 8-in Long.
 
This is a solid reverse hyper for a solid price. If you need big equipment because you are massive but do not want to pay massive bucks, this is a great option to add a reverse hyper to your training arsenal-
 

Pros of the TITAN H-PND

 
The pros of the TITAN H-PND are:
 
  • Price
  • Massive Pad
  • Massive structure
 
The price of a reverse hyper this weight and height is unmatched in the industry. As so often with TITAN equipment they undercut the competition from Rogue and Eleiko by almost half.
 
The pad which you lay on his huge on the TITAN H-PND. This provides comfort and safety for an exercise that can get very uncomfortable and even harmful very quick if it is not set up in the right way.
 
This thing will go nowhere. It is big and heavy and that is good, if you need one as small people usually do no use this type of equipment that much.
 

Cons of the TITAN H-PND

 
The cons of the H-PND are:
 
  • Space requirement
  • Low use
 
This machine eats up quite  bit of space, especially in a home gym. While a lot of powerlifters and weightlifters say that this machine massively helped them to set new personal records and feel less lower back, it still runs a high risk to not be utilized enough. Quite a few home gym owners sell these as they find that they can make better use of their limited space with  other equipment.
 

Alternatives to the TITAN H-PND

 
 
The Titan economy H-PND is the cheaper and smaller version of the TITAN H-PND. Especially if you are small yourself and have limited space and budget this might be the better version for you. The TITAN economy also functions as the base for the TITAN Glute and ham combo.
 
If are not massive and can afford the Glute and hamstring combo from TITAN than this is probably the better buy. You will get more use out of your space buy opting for this variation on the H-PND without giving up too much space. If you are buying for your own home gym, definetly like at this before checking out. In a commercial setting you might want to get two different machines, one glute ham and one reverse hyper. It is only slightly more money than getting the combo but you get the benefit of being able to handle more people at the same time or running circuit training.
 
The Rogue donkey is the gold standard in the industry for GHDs and Reverse hypers to date. Everything on this machine is in the right place and sturdy. The pad is massive and has a beautiful leather finish that is also practical. With all things which are exceptionally nice, they come at an exceptional price. The Rogue Donkey is no exception and retails at $1.950. Worth it, but only if you are flush with cash.
 

Conclusion for the TITAN H-PND

 
The TITAN H-PND is a great budget option for one of the sturdiest reverse hypers you can find in the market. If your goal is to provide a lot of variety to your clients and you have the space, there is not a lot you can do wrong by buying this reverse hyper. If you are challenged for the space you might want to get the combo instead or the Donkey, depending on budget. All in all a Reverse hyper is not the most essential item to training, so you might want to look for other pieces to the puzzle first. A belt squat machine could be such an option.

Overview and review of the Rogue Monster Lite Rig 2.0

 

 

 

Price: 1.795$ - 5.095$

This review was originally posted in the longer article "Which strength equipment to buy from rogue" in which you can read about 25 products of Rogue which cost more than 1.000$. The Rogue Monster lite rig is a good start to your home gym or commercial gym targeted at the general public. See the details in this article.

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Overview of the Rogue Monster lite rig

 
The Monster Lite Rig is the little brother of the Monster Rig. The main difference is that the bolts and holes which are used to attach equipment are smaller. Monster lite uses the same 4'-6'-4' pattern as the Monster series. You will get 3x3'' 11-Gauge steel uprights for a solid base to built your gym around.
 
With the 2.0 upgrade, you are now able to choose different colors for your rig. Rogue also worked on the overall stability of their rigs compared to earlier models including different beams. The double pull up bars have been swapped for single pull up bars to make muscle ups easier to perform. The main ideas of the rigs are that you customize them in many different ways to your personal needs. You will get to choose from three different editions which are:

  • Base 2.0 Edition
  • Standard 2.0 Edition
  • Racked 2.0 edition
 
which are increasing in price as more material is used in each of these versions.
 
The base 2.0 edition comes with double pull up bars at the top for stability and to do pull-ups. This version is the most cost-efficient and leaves the most room around the beams to allow free movement. If you are on a budget and do a lot of cardio drills which are mixed with weightlifting and pull-ups. This is great for a gym with members who do are not much interested in powerlifting and whose fitness levels are not very high. The downsides of the base edition are less stability compared to other versions and obstructions when you want to do muscle ups. You also have fewer options to upgrade in the feature as the top beams do not provide holes to attach additional equipment too.
 
The standard edition mainly changes the top part of your rig. The double pull-up bars are swapped for beams. This frees up space for muscle ups along the rig, gives it more stability and options to attach extra equipment at the top of the rig. Examples can be climbing ropes and the Rogue climbing boards. You still keep the option to move freely around at the bottom. This is the right choice for gyms that have a bit more budget, want more upgrade possibilities while still being able to move around freely. If your members are gradually getting fitter you also might consider changing a base model to standard model.
 
The racked edition gives you the most amount of metal for the Monster Lite rig. You will create half racks at the back of each squat/bench station. This also provides more options for storage and more stability to the entire rig. If you have a lot of big football players around who move heavy weight and do little to no pull-ups or running around in the gym, this is the configuration to get. The downside of the racked edition is that any kind of running inside the rig for circuit training is not possible. You will also have a harder time to maximize the number of people doing pull-ups in parallel. 
 
The Rig is available in 10', 14', 20', and 24' from Rogue. It can be prolonged to whichever length you want based on your available space. The combination of the edition and length will determine the price. The longer the Rig and the more material is used, the higher the price tag will be. With these various lengths you can create the following stations for your gym:
 
  • 10'
    • 2 Squat/Bench stations
    • 5 pull up stations
  • 14'
    • 4 Squat/Bench stations
    • 6 Pull up stations
  • 20'
    • 4 Squat/Bench stations
    • 9 Pull up stations
  • 24' 
    • 6 Squat/Bench stations
    • 10 pull up stations
The more clients you have in the same session, the longer the rig should be.
 
 
 Take some time to think about what you are planning in advance.
 
  • How many clients should the Monster lite Rig bring you
 
If you think that the Monster lite Rig will bring you 6 -17 new clients who pay you 50$ on a 1-year retainer it is worth the investment. This will yield 3590$ - 10.190$ net new revenue against an investment of 1.795 - 5095$. Adjust the numbers for your own gym accordingly.
 

Pros of the Rogue Monster Lite Rig

The monster lite rig gives you the freedom to play with many different configurations. It also comes in at a lower price than the Monster series Rig which can help if you want to save costs. Most of the accessories for rigs also cost slightly less in the Monster Lite version than the monster version. It will be easier to transport and disassemble than the Monster rig if you have to that often. 
 

Cons of the Rogue Monster lite Rig

 

The Monster Lite rig is not compatible with all Rogue equipment. As Rogue is pushing into the machines space now expect that most of the heavy machinery will be only or firstly available for the more stable monster construction. Also, some of the accessories you can get for the Monster series might not be available. If you exactly know what your gym should look like and you will have no needs for future upgrades, go for Monster Lite to optimize your price. If you are unsure how your gym and client base will develop, go with Monster to leave you with more options.
 

Alternatives to the Monster lite series

 
Here are some alternatives to the Monster lite series which you can consider:
 
 
This is the minimum configuration of the big brother of the Monster lite series which includes:
 
  • Base edition
  • Rig length of 10'
 
You get the same rig, just a bit more sturdy and with more upgrade options for the future. I am always a fan of overengineering when possible. Especially when you do not buy a long rig this upgrade makes sense as you only spend about 100$ more. The longer the rig gets, the more it hurts your purse to go for Monster.
 
 
This is the maximum you can go to on the Monster Rig. As you can see the difference in price between the maximum config for Monster Lite and Monster is 1.000$. Pay special attention to these economies of scale when you are outfitting a very big gym. You also might want to consider buying separate RM6 racks instead of a Rig, when you already see a need for so many heavy duty squat/bench stations. That leaves you with more options to utilize your space as you are probably not going to run around a lot in this config anyway.
 
  • 1x RM6 @ 2.000$
 
The rogue RM 6 might be an alternative for home gym owner. Think about how likely it will actually be that all of the family will train at the same time in the garage or basement gym. It is probably a lot less than you think. In this case, it might be a better alternative to get an RM6 instead of a 14' Rig to accommodate the needs of your family. If you run your personal trainer business from home ask your self how many clients will you have at the same time and what are their needs. You can get up to three people on an RM6 to train in parallel and save some depth in your basement.
 

Conclusion

The Rogue Monster lite Rig is still a very sturdy build, even though it has a bigger brother with the Monster Series. When you want to build a very long rig this might be the better option than the Monster series. This is the go to option for mere mortals who do not weigh 140kg and deadlift 900 pounds.
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