Rogue ISO Leg Press vs TITAN neck machine
This is a comparison of the Rogue Iso leg press and the TITAN neck machine including pros, cons, and alternatives. Follow the links for more details.
Overview and review of the TITAN neck machine $399
This is an overview of the TITAN neck machine including pros, cons and alternatives. This article was originally posted in Which gym machine to get from TITAN. Follow the links for additional information.
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Overview of the TITAN Plate loaded neck machine
The
TITAN plate loaded neck machine is a special machine that is a good choice, if you have the need to build extra strength in your
neck. It can be used in four directions to develop your
neck muscles. This is a niche machine that will not get a lot of use in your commercial gym and also only is a good choice in a home gym with a lot of space. The full specifications are:
- Left, right, front and back; this 4-way machine works all the neck muscles.
- Arm pivots on precision flange bearings to provide a smooth action.
- Removable pin is used to restrict direction of head movement.
- Fully adjustable seat height.
- Includes 2 weight sleeves
- Overall Height: 59-in.
- Foot Print: 38-in x 26-in.
- Roller Pad Length: 11-in.
- Roller Pad Diameter: 4.9-in.
- Seat Dimensions: 12-in x 12-in x 2.4-in.
- Seat Adjustment Height: 22-in to 34-in.
- Grip Diameter: 29mm
- Sleeve Diameter: 48mm
- Loadable Sleeve Length: 8-in.
- Finish: Powder Coated Black
- Material: 2-in x 2-in 11-GA Steel
- Finish Color: Black Powder Coating
- Material: 2-in x 2-in 11-Gauge Steel
- Weight Capacity: 175 lb.
- Product Weight: 86 lb.
Pros of the TITAN Plate loaded neck machine
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Focused training
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Plate loaded
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Seat included
The
TITAN plate loaded neck machine is a great tool to train your neck in multiple directions. If you are a wrestler or mma fighter this might be a machine to consider to get your neck into shape.
Plate loaded machines save cost, especially if you are the only one using them, as you do not pay double or triple for the weight stacks which are included with most other machines.
In addition this machine also includes a seat and therefore can function by itself without having to buy a separate bench. This can be interesting for commercial gyms who buy this in bulk all over the country as there is fewer items to ship and itemize.
Cons of the TITAN plate loaded neck machine
While this machine is not a health hazard when used correctly it become one quite easily if there no proper instructions given. The fact that it is
plate loaded perpetuates this problem even further. If you run a commercial gym with very little instructions given to the clients you might want to steer way clear of this machine to not expose you to any kind of risk.
Even if the machine is used properly it has a very niche application and will not be used many clients in your gym. If you have the need to build a string neck for your sport you might also find other gadgets that can help with that that take up less space.
Alternatives to the TITAN plate loaded neck machine
The
TITAN plate loaded functional trainer is a great choice for home gym owners who want to cover all bases and not pay too much money to so. The
plate loaded functional trainer comes in at $700 and is therefore quite affordable. This is a great option for a home gym that wants to save space and yet still train all muscle groups with pulley resistance. If you want to provide this service in a public space the
TITAN functional trainer with weight stacks might be the better option, as this creates less risk for tripping up or injury for loading the
plates onto the machine.
The
TITAN plate loaded deltoid machine is the better machine to build the neck and upper body in a safe way. With this machine there is less risk of serious injury when it is not used correctly. It also is a two in one machine for seated shoulder presses and deltoid work. If you want to build a big neck without risking serious injury and giving up too much space, this is a great alternative.
Conclusion for the TITAN plate loaded neck machine
I personally think that the
TITAN plate loaded neck machine comes into the same bracket as a
smith machine. Yes it has it benefits, but there is other machines and equipment that do the same thing in a safer and better way. One of these would be a head harness that you can attach weight or a band too. Less space taken up even though a good one of these will cost roughly the same as the
TITAN neck trainer.Overview and review of the Rogue ISO Leg Press
Price: 4.750
This review was originally posted in the longer article "Which strength equipment to buy from rogue" in which you can read about 25 products of Rogue which cost more than 1.000$. The Rogue ISO leg press is a machine for the advanced athlete to perform the leg press. See the details in this article.
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Overview of the Rogue ISO Leg press
The
Rogue Iso Leg press is one of the products of Rogue
which have recently appeared in the portfolio. In my opinion, you can clearly see that Rogue wants to use the
Lat pulldown machine,
Prone Leg Curl and
ISO Leg press to gain market share in the commercial gym sector to diversify their business beyond CrossFit gyms. While Rogue has already mastered the mass production of
barbells and
rigs, the production of big machines is done more manual. You might get a cheaper, more refined machine from somewhere else who has specialized in these for decades. Still, this will be most likely not American made and definitely not fit the rest of your Rogue gym setup.
The future looks promising as the
Rhino Belt Squat has been a great release with a positive reception in the market. I am sure rogue will take the new technological developments from the
50 cals (locking system) and the
Rhino (Pulley System) to create more refined machines in the future
which will take over the market.
The
Rogue ISO press can load up to 2475lb and has four load pegs. Rogue claims a 60% true weight ratio for the
leg press. Machines are often criticized that too much of the load gets lost and does not have an effect on the lifter. This is why you see some people on Youtube leg pressing a bunch of
plates and four Chinese girls on a
leg press machine. They have better leverage than in a
barbell squat.
The
Rogue ISO leg press weighs 708lbs with a footprint of 64'' x 98''. It is 98'' long, 64'' wide and 47'' high.
Pros of the Rogue ISO Leg Press
Rogue has paid attention to the feedback from other machines by working on the true weight ratio. The four loadable pegs will go down well with your stronger clients who like big machines and also cannot find sufficient machinery in other gyms.
The fact that each leg can be addressed individually will be interesting to rehab clients and professional athletes alike. Not many
leg press machines bear this feature.
You will also get a
machine that has been made by American hands in Columbus. There is quite some work to be done to finish this beast and you will always know that this has been done by an American.
Cons of the Rogue ISO Leg Press
The
leg press machine is a single purpose machine with a relatively big footprint. This does not make it a suitable option for most gyms with a small footprint. You will also be buying outside of Rogues core business with less volume. Expect that customer services have fewer options to help you out with parts/replacements/repairs as the order volume on these is lower. There is less storage to draw from and all parts are welded together for the
ISO (
which means if you want to return it, they probably have to weld another from scratch or move someone else's order).
For this price, especially if you buy multiple, maybe ask Rogue whether you can inspect the machines on site before delivery. Bring your biggest and smallest athlete/client&relative, Based on the test ask whether small alterations can be made before the machines are finished (coated etc) and shipped.
How many clients should this leg press bring you?
If you think that the
ISO leg press will bring you 16 new clients who pay you 50$ on a 1-year retainer it is worth the investment. This will yield 9.600$ net new revenue against an investment of 4.750$. Adjust the numbers for your own gym accordingly.
Alternatives to the ISO leg press
Here are some alternatives to the
Rogue Iso leg press which come in at roughly the same budget.
The
Rogue Wingspan Rig only costs about 250 USD more but is an all in one gym for that price. You have a
pull-up station,
rack, lots of storage room, a
crown pull up bar for various grip variations and space to store up to five
barbells. While the
ISO leg press is on one end of the spectrum as a leg training giant, this is one of the most versatile options from Rogue in the same price range.
This would be an alternative for a weightlifting gym that has no need for
pull up bars and has a lot of space. You have to teach your clients how to drop a
bar safely when there is enough room. The
Rhino belt squat can be used by athletes with shoulder injuries or for heavy squats/volume work. It still loads enough weights for mere mortals.
The belt squat is the poor man's version of the
leg press. It does more for balance and natural movement patterns and can not be loaded as heavy as the
Rhino Belt Squat or
Leg press machine. If you already have
jerk blocks or pylo jump boxes this is probably the most cost-efficient version to get close to a
leg press. Be aware that the setup is tedious and the injury risk is high if you do not assist your clients in setting this up.
Conclusion
With the Rogue Iso Leg press you will get a fully welded, American made leg press machine. The specialty of this leg press machine is that you can work one leg at a time or both optionally. With some extra space to add plates to the leg press and special attention to a maximum carry over of the weight to the lifter this leg press is for serious gyms that do not want to compromise.