Rogue Monster Rig 2.0 vs TITAN vertical leg press
This is a comparison of the Rogue Monster Rig and the TITAN vertical leg press including pros, cons, and alternatives. Follow the links for more details.
Overview and review of the TITAN Vertical leg press $349
This is an overview of the TITAN vertical leg press including pros, cons and alternatives. This article was originally posted in Which gym machine to get from TITAN. Follow the links for additional information.
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Overview of the TITAN vertical leg press
The
vertical leg press is a low budget approach on a
barbell squat or leg press machine. IT uses two uprights to and three
plate pins to deliver something similar to the classic leg press machine you see in every gym. It also has a smaller footprint than most other machines which train the legs. The full specifications of the
TITAN vertical leg press are:
- Takes the stress off of your back and isolates your lower body.
- Three weight posts for plenty of room to add weight.
- Adjustable footplate starting height to suite different size athletes.
- High quality steel construction and pads for a solid, comfortable design.
- Dual post design lets you feel the weight on either leg.
- Footprint: 48" x 38"
- Footplate Starting Height(s): 26.5", 32", 35", 38".
- Full Extension Height: 52.5"
- Footplate Dimensions: 21.5" x 5"
- Back Pad Dimensions: 32" x 15"
- Head Rest Dimensions: 10" x 6"
- Weight Post Length: 8.75"
- Weight Post Diameter: 1.95"
- Weight Capacity: 400 LB
- Weight: 94 LB
This is a great machine if you want to save some space and money. It has its little flaws and I would not recommend it if you are massive yourself.
Pros of the TITAN vertical leg press
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Small foot print
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Small price
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Easy to transport
This leg press does not cost much and also saves space in your gym. For any home gym that is pressed for space this can be a good solution to still get a leg press into a crammed space. If you take it apart there is also not a lot to transport. This makes it a good option for someone who moves around a lot and wants to take their gym with them.
Cons of the TITAN vertical leg press
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Small footplate
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Small area to lie on
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No security pin
This machine has all kinds of issues of you are the type of person that leg presses several hundred kilos of plates. Even though the position is less advantageous than in other leg presses, the small design without any security stops can be scary. I would not recommend this machine to anyone who already
barbell back squats north of 150kg for repetitions as this machine has too many options to harm yourself in a serious way if the weight is too heavy.
Alternatives to the TITAN vertical leg press
The
TITAN smith machine is another option in the TITAN portfolio to do squats and other exercises. While this machine comes in at a much higher price than the
vertical leg press, you can also store
plates on it and do more than just squats. I am personally not a huge fan of
smith machines as I think that a
rack with a
barbell does the job better and safer once you learned how to use it properly.
The
titan hack leg press is a good option for a home gym with a bit of space as it doubles up as two machines. The design is also closer to the common
leg press machines which you see all over the world. While it is still a bit flimsy compared to other leg presses in the market, i would recommend it over the
vertical leg press, if you have the space for it.
If you are considering a
leg press machine mainly to get more squat volume in, than a
TITAN belt squat machine might be the better option for you. This machine also puts less pressure on your spine than a regular
barbell squat, but you are still standing on your won feet rather than laying on the ground. This is a great option for anyone who want s to blow their quads.
The
Rogue Rhino is the current gold standard in the fitness industry for
belt squat machines. This is the best you can get in terms of build and functionality if you want to get a leg machine. That also comes with a bigger price tag as the
Rogue Rhino is very close to the $2000 mark which plays in a completely different league than the
TITAN vertical leg press.
The Rogue leg press is a $4000 dollar monster of a leg press machine that even Ronnie Coleman could not break. In addition to the large weight capacity and the amount of metal you would need to build a car it also offers the option to train each leg separately. The footplate can be unlocked in the middle and each platform runs on its own lever system.
Conclusion for the TITAN Vertical leg press
The
TITAN vertical leg press is a good machine for a crammed space at home to get a leg press. Be careful when you use and do not load it up too much. It only weighs 94lbs so you might not want to put 1000lbs on top of it when all that separates you and the floor is your legs.
Overview and review of the Rogue Monster Rig 2.0
Price: 1.845 - 6.095$
This review was originally posted in the longer article "Which strength equipment to buy from rogue" in in which you can read about 25 products of Rogue which cost more than 1.000$. The Rogue Monster Rig 2.0 can be a good start to build your first commercial gym. See the details in this article.
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Overview of the Rogue Monster Rig
The concept behind the
rigs is the backbone of any CrossFit "box" gym. This design is genius in its adaptability and flexibility. As with all highly flexible and adaptable systems, this makes the purchase process a bit more complicated. Before you
buy a rig, make sure you have measured your gym, made some reasonable assumptions about your potential clients, or even better asked them directly. You can spend thousands of Dollars on attachments and space, that your clients might not even use and you, therefore, don't need.
The constant factors in the
Monster Rig built are the width, height, steel notes, and built pattern. The
Rogue Monster rig is 6' wide and 9' high. The steel nodes come in 3x3 11- Gauge steel. The
rigs will be built in a 4-6-4 pattern,
which means that the squat/bench stations are 4' wide while there is 6' space between the stations. The main variations are the length and edition of the
Rogue Monster Rig. The editions are from lowest to highest price:
- Base 2.0 Edition
- Standard 2.0 Edition
- Racked 2.0 Edition
The base version has the lowest cost, The construction gets its stability from double
pull up bars. If you have no clients who want to do muscle ups and you do not want options to place rogue accessories up high for climbing exercises this is the way to go. If you want to be able to do muscle ups ask rogue whether you can swap the double bars to
dirty south bars. This provides the double beam while moving the
pull-up bars out to be able to do muscle ups. The standard Edition might be more cost effective for this purpose.
The standard edition comes in at a slightly higher cost. For this, you get the second generation of the
rigs. Rogue changed their
pull up bars so that muscle ups are possible and there's more support where the bars attach to the
beams of the rig. The upper construction has also been optimized that it can take more accessories. This leaves you with more options for upgrades and more stability, as the upper construction is now sturdier. The base and standard edition are optimized for Crossfit as you can move around the ground more freely. For gyms focused on weight training & powerlifting, you might want more stability and beams.
The
Racked Edition of the Rig adds considerable cost. In return, you will get more rack space. Each bench/squat station now basically turns into an
RM6 rack with one full rack in front and a
half rack in the back. The
half racks could be filled with
Rhino belt squat machines. This setup also enables band work in and outside of the
rack and opens more storage options for
plates. The downside is that this setup is suboptimal for CrossFit gyms. There is too much going on on the ground to freely move around.
The Rogue Monster RIg is available in 4 different lengths which are
- 10'
- 2 Squat/Bench Stations
- 6 Pull-up Stations
- 14'
- 4 Squat/Bench stations
- 8 Pull up stations
- 20'
- 4 Squat/Bench Stations
- 12 Pull up Stations
- 24'
- 6 Squat/Bench stations
- 14 Pull up Stations
The more clients you want to serve in parallel the longer
the rig should be. Choose wisely between the setups especially on your first purchase. Remember that you can always buy more at a later stage. You can even make it a business goal to be able to justify to
make your Rig longer based on growing numbers in classes.
Pros of the Rogue Monster Rig
The Rigs are highly modular and versatile. You can find an option for almost any budget and can do a multitude of exercises in them. The general feedback in the market is that Rogue comes in at a higher price and delivers with solid builds. You can also see how Rogue incorporated client feedback and
kept improving their RIgs based on it. Buying anything out of the
Monster series also protects your investment for the future. Most upgrades are first released for
Monster and are only later made available for
Monster lite if it all.
Cons of the Rogue Monster Rig
How many clients should the Monster Rig 2.0 bring you?
Your first
monster Rig purchase will be very important. If you are at this juncture take a really hard look at your business plan.
- How many people live in the area?
- How many people are already on your books?
- What kind of training do they like?
- Are there other gyms in the area?
- What kind of equipment do they have?
- What do you like?
- What do you dislike?
- What kind of equipment do you have yourself?
- Is it compatible with the Rogue Monster Rig?
- How much space do you have?
- Where are the doors?
- Where are major obstructions?
- Where will you store equipment?
Just to name a few. It is easy to get excited about Rogue's great equipment and get carried away. If you are flush with cash have fun. If you are cash-stricken do multiple iterations of the planning process and reflect with others over it to get the optimum for your dime.
If you think that the
Monster Rig will bring you 7 to 21 new clients who pay you 50$ on a 1-year retainer it is worth the investment. This will yield 4.200$ to 12.600$ in net new revenue against an investment of 1.895$ to 6.095$. Adjust the numbers for your own gym accordingly. If this Rogue is being bought for opening the doors also factor in running costs like electricity, insurance, staff education, and labor.
Alternatives to the Monster Monster Rig
For this, I will go with the average between of 1.895 and 6.095 which computes to 4.995$.
This is the minimum configuration of the little brother of the
Monster Rig.
- Base Edition
- Rig length 10'
The main difference are the holes
which have been drilled into the material. This means that usually more accessories work with the
Monster than with the
Monster lite. Most rogue material is overbuilt for the purpose. I would not worry too much about stability and safety between the
Monster Lite and
Monster versions.
Conclusion
The Rogue Monster Rig 2.0 is an uncompromising start to your new gym. Even the biggest athletes will be able to brutalize it without significant impact or movement in the structure. If you have the money and want to build the best of the best, this is the way to go.