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Rogue Monster Lat pull down stand alone vs TITAN Glute and hamstring combo

Written by Pascal Landshoeft | Dec 19, 2020 5:00:00 PM

Rogue Monster Lat pull down stand alone vs TITAN Glute and hamstring combo

This is a comparison of the Rogue Monster Lat pull and the TITAN Glute and hamstring combo including pros, cons, and alternatives. Follow the links for more details.

 
 

Overview and review of the TITAN Glute and hamstring combo $699

This is an overview of the TITAN Glute and hamstring combo including pros, cons and alternatives. This article was originally posted in Which gym machine to get from TITAN. Follow the links for additional information.

 

Overview of the TITAN Glute and Hamstring combo

 
The Glute and hamstring combo from TITAN is the Flagship version of a glute and hamstring machine in their portfolio. TITAN has many other variations of this, but this one is the most comprehensive and sturdy. It does what it says on the tin and is a great addition to any home gym or powerlifting gy as an addition to the essential items. This is not the forst thing to get for your gym but a good contender for the second purchase or third depending on your training preferences. In commercial gyms most people will not know how to use this properly and be intimidated by it. If you are working a lot with powerlifters and weightlifters, this might just be the machine to set you apart from the other gyms around the corner. The full list of features includes:
 
- All the exercises of a GHD and an H-PND in one comprehensive machine
- Heavy-duty steel construction guarantees years of dependability
- Fits Olympic size weight plates
- 10-inch of loadable sleeve length
- Includes (2) spring clip collars and a strap
- Adjustable footplate height and length
- Adjustable handle length
 
- Overall Footprint: 70-in x 42.5-in.
- Overall Length (handle extended): 79-in.
- Overall Width: 42.5-in.
- Pad Dimensions: 28-in x 16-in.
- Pad Middle Gap: 4.75-in.
- Grip Length: 6-in.
- Grip Diameter: 1.25-in.
- Arm Length: 28-in.
- Anchor Length: 25-in.
- Overall Weight: 253 lb.
 
- Handle Adjusts 6 holes: 2-in spacing
- Pendulum Adjusts 11 holes: 2-in spacing
- Foothold Dimensions: 7-in x 2.5-in.
- Footplate Dimensions: 19.75-in x 13.75-in.
- Footplate Adjustable Length 7 holes: 2-in spacing
- Footplate Adjustable Height: 45.5-in to 51.5-in from floor at 1-in spacing
 
This is the best Glute and hamstring combo you can get for its price. It is not the best in the market, but you will safe considerably compared to its direct competitor, the Rogue Donkey.
 

Pros of the TITAN Glute and Hamstring combo

 
 
  • Price
  • Space efficient
  • Highly adjustable
 
As with many TITAN fitness items you pay about half of what the competition charges for a similar product. This can get very interesting for someone who buys in bulk or for their home gym. You can never argue with a good bit of saving and this also goes for the TITAN Glute and hamstring combo.
 
The TITAN Glute and hamstring combo saves space as the design combines glute and hamstring machines in one station. This means you have to place fewer machines in your gym to achieve the same range of exercises in your space.
 
What TITAN also get right about this one is that they made all the handles and levers highly adjustable. One of the main problems with these types of machines is that it can get very uncomfortable and downright damaging to your body, if you can not adjust them properly to your body dimensions. TITAN delivers on this for this model.
 

Cons of the TITAN Glute and Hamstring combo

 
The cons of the TITAN Glute and Hamstring combo are:
 
  • Padding
  • Space requirement
  • Underused
  • Instructions
 
The only thing TITAN could have paid more attention to in this design is the padding of the middle part of the Glute and hamstring combo. The padding is probably as thin as one you would find on a preacher curl machine. The difference is that you will rest your entire bodyweight on this one. That was an oversight when this was drawn up and shows that it was designed by someone who wanted to make a quick copy of the competition rather than someone who actually uses the machine.
 
A Glute and ham combo takes up considerable amount of space in your gym. In addition it also swings out to the back so you can not really place any other equipment right behind it. Pay close attention to your measurement and have a lot of clearance around this machine as it otherwise it becomes dangerous or unusable. IN addition the use of this machine is pretty niche. Only powerlifters and strength athletes will use it a lot which does not make it a great choice for your average commercial gym.
 
As with most TITAN machines with a lot of moving parts the instructions for putting this together leave a lot to be desired. What you save in cash you have to make up for in tim invested to put this thing together.
 

Alternatives to the TITAN Glute and Hamstring combo

 
 
The Glute and hamstring developer is slightly less expensive than the combo. It does not have the reverse hyper extension and offers fewer exercise options. In exchange the padding is superior to the Glute and hamstring combo. Both machines take up roughly the same footprint in your gym.
 
The TITAN H-PND is the massive reverse hyper from TITAN. It is huge and sturdy and you can not do a lot with this one for the price. The only exception is that it might not fit in your gym. If you are looking for a monster of a reverse hyper for your gym, this is it.
 
The TITAN Economy H-PND is the base for the Glute and hamstring combo. This has been stripped of the Glute ham options to make it a 100% reverse hyper. TITAN might consider to also make a version based on the H-PND rather than the economy only. If you only want a reverse hyper for a reasonable price that is not massive, this is the one to get.
 
The Rogue donkey is the gold standard for glute and hamstring developers that you can currently get. The pad is massive and everything about this machine is overbuilt. So is the price.  The Rogue donkey will put you back $1.945. You can get three TITAN versions for this price.
 

Conclusion for the TITAN Glute and Hamstring combo

 
This machine is good for a home gym for someone of average size. If you are a massive powerlifter or bodybuilder you might want to tend towards the Rogue donkey. Same goes for a gym focused on the powerlifting population, even though it is massively more expensive. Also, these machines are more hype than they actually get used. More often than not you will only get very little use out of them and they just gather dust. Teaching your members how to do good mornings might be a better way for you to save money and space in your gym.

Overview and review of the Rogue Monster Lat pull down stand alone 

 

Price: 2.950

This review was originally posted in the longer article "Which strength equipment to buy from rogue" in which you can read about 25 products of Rogue which cost more than 1.000$. The Rogue Monster lat pull down will create more bats in your gym. See the details in this article.

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Overview of the Rogue Monster Lat pull down

 
The Monster Lat pulldown Standalone is a lat pulldown machine for the expert athlete. As with all Rogue equipment this machine is built like a tank. The lat pulldown machine is a great example of how Rogue takes pride in what they do and takes their customer feedback series. 
 
If you read between the lines you can see that the pulley, the bar, cable, and Steel eye were not up to Rogue's standards in the V1 of this machine. All of these parts have been consequently brought in-house and are not bought from 3rd parties anymore. These things are normal when new production lines are being built, a new market is tested and new processes build around them.
 
At least Rogue took the right learnings from this and perfected their Rhino launch. The prone leg curl and the ISO leg press have not gotten a V2 overhaul yet whereas the Lat pull down has. Be aware of this when you buy from Rogue. I am positive they will accommodate valid feedback, especially on big orders. If you buy for your home gym, maybe wait on the leg press and curl until there is more feedback available or find a gym nearby to test them.
 
The Rogue Lat pulldown weighs 605lb and offers up to 300lb resistance in plates in 10lb increments. It has a footprint of 40'' by 60''. It is 60'' long, 40'' wide and 96'' high. The steel notes are 3x3 11-gauge steel just like the rest of the Rogue Monster series.
 

Pros of the Rogue Monster lat pull down

 
This lat pulldown is also a rowing machine so you get two for the price of one. The difference to many other rowing machines is that Rogue came up with an idea that does not make the bench longer. By positioning a footrest under the seat this lat pulldown machine turns into a rowing machine without adding extra length. 
 
Another big pro is that this machine allows the use of bands with the lat pull. This is very unique and I have not seen many machines like this. Especially when you have experienced athletes you will appreciate that you can work with bands.
 

Cons of the Rogue Monster Lat pull down

 

A lat pulldown is a big machine. It will take up quite a bit of space where a pull-up bar might create a similar effect. Especially in a home gym scenario, you might be better off getting dumbbells and a pull-up bar which takes up less floor space. As with other machines, the pulley system takes maintenance. Oiling this system and keeping it in check might not be for everyone.
 

How many clients do you need for the lat pull down?

 
If you think that the Lat pulldown will bring you 10 new clients who pay you 50$ on a 1-year retainer it is worth the investment. This will yield 6.000$ net new revenue against an investment of 2.950$. Adjust the numbers for your own gym accordingly.
 

Alternatives to the Lat pull down from Rogue

 
Here are some alternatives to the Rogue lat pull down
 
1x Rhino belt Squat Rack @ 2750$
 
The Rhino belt including the half rack will give you a better pulley system and the necessary rack to play around with it. It will not exactly be the same and the workarounds might be not ideal, however, it is possible. I would also be very surprised if Rogue did not capitalize on the opportunity to deliver a system that combines the RM6 and Rhino to a fully built all-purpose gym station. Stay tuned for that one.
 
1x Monster Lite Rig @ 2.495$
 
A monster lite rig will provide you with
 
  • 4 Squat/ Bench Stations
  • 8 Pull up Stations
 
For less than the price for one lat pulldown machine. If you are aiming to open a small CrossFit gym this is the way to go. This also shows you that Rogue still has to work on optimizing their costs on building machines. The upshot is that you will get a machine that is fully made in the US. If you work for the government this might even be a requirement for purchase. 
 

Conclusion

The Rogue Monster lat pull down is a very solid machine for your gym. If you do not want to compromise and attract the biggest and best athletes to your gym, this is the one to go for. 
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