Rogue Monster Lite Rig 2.0 vs TITAN standing back extension machine
This is a comparison between the Rogue Monster Lite rig and the TITAN standing back extension machine including pros, cons, and alternatives. Follow the links for more details.
Overview and review of the TITAN standing back extension machine $381
This is an overview of the TITAN standing back extension machine including pros, cons and alternatives. This article was originally posted in Which gym machine to get from TITAN. Follow the links for additional information.
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Overview of the TITAN standing back extension machine
The TITAN standing back extension machine is a simple and robust design from TITAN. With this machine you can do back raises and side raises to train your core and back. The pad is adjustable in height and can also be tilted in different positions. This is a machine for accessory work that can not be done with a lot of other machines. It is great for what it does if you have the space for it. The full list of specifications is:
- Strengthen your posterior chain
- Fully adjustable unit to fit a wide variety of exercises and athletes
- (8) adjustable foot roller and round pad positions in 1-inch increments
- (4) adjustable angle positions for the rounded pad
- High-quality 2 x 2-inch steel frame for a solid and stable design
- Footprint: 65-in x 28-in (39.5-in with band pegs)
- Footplate Dimensions: 24-in x 24-in.
- Rounded Pad Height: 28-in – 35-in.
- Foot Roller Diameter: 3.5-in.
- Product Weight: 112 lb.
Simple, elegant and effective. This is a machine that is easy to use and can be used in many different ways. Compared to a reverse hyper or GHD it delivers similar results but in a more accessible way for the general public.
Pros of the Titan Standing back extension machine
The pros of the Standing back extension are:
As with almost all TITAN products you get an industrial grade machine for a consumer price. TITAN undercuts their competition by about half and the standing back extension machine is no exception.
This is a great machine for a commercial gym to provide options to train g your back and sides. In a home gym you might want to go for a
GHD and reverse hyper combo as it offers you more options while it takes up roughly the same footprint.
Cons of the TITAN back extension machine
The cons of the TITAN back extension machine are:
For a bodyweight exercise machine the standing back extension takes up quite a bit of foot print. For this big a machine you might want to get something else instead that enables you to add resistance to your exercises via
plates.
Alternatives to the TITAN standing back extension machine
Alternatives to the standing back extension machine are:
The
TITAN H-PND is TITAN’s Monster Reverse hyper. This thing is built like a tank and will have enough padding for even the biggest of athletes. If you want to train your lower back with a reverse hyper than this is the best you can get from TITAN.
The
TITAN economy H-PND is the little brother of the original H-PND from TITAN. The steel gauges and the padding have been downsized to offer this reverse hyper at a lower price. The
economy H-PND also builds the base for the
Glute and hamstring combo, which is a great choice to train your posterior chain in a spacious home gym.
The
Rogue donkey is the gold standard in the market for posterior chain development. Rogue came up with a clever design and executed it perfectly. Especially the lad on this machine is very high quality and supports even the biggest athletes. Good quality also comes at a high price as the
Donkey puts you back close to $2000.
Conclusion for the TITAN standing back extension machine
The standing back extension machine is a great addition to any commercial gym with space. You might even want to get multiple of these and create a back area. In a home gym the
glute and hamstring combo might be better use of your space.
Overview and review of the Rogue Monster Lite Rig 2.0
Price: 1.795$ - 5.095$
This review was originally posted in the longer article "Which strength equipment to buy from rogue" in which you can read about 25 products of Rogue which cost more than 1.000$. The Rogue Monster lite rig is a good start to your home gym or commercial gym targeted at the general public. See the details in this article.
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Overview of the Rogue Monster lite rig
The
Monster Lite Rig is the little brother of the
Monster Rig. The main difference is that the bolts and holes
which are used to attach
equipment are smaller.
Monster lite uses the same 4'-6'-4' pattern as the
Monster series. You will get 3x3'' 11-Gauge steel uprights for a solid base to built your gym around.
With the 2.0 upgrade, you are now able to choose
different colors for your rig. Rogue also worked on the overall stability of their rigs compared to earlier models including different beams. The double
pull up bars have been swapped for single pull up bars to make muscle ups easier to perform. The
main ideas of the rigs are that you customize them in many different ways to your personal needs. You will get to choose from three different editions
which are:
- Base 2.0 Edition
- Standard 2.0 Edition
- Racked 2.0 edition
which are increasing in price as more material is used in each of these versions.
The base 2.0 edition comes with double
pull up bars at the top for stability and to do
pull-ups. This version is the most cost-efficient and leaves the most room around the beams to allow free movement. If you are on a budget and do a lot of cardio drills
which are mixed with weightlifting and
pull-ups. This is great for a gym with members who do are not much interested in powerlifting and whose fitness levels are not very high. The downsides of the base edition are less stability compared to other versions and obstructions when you want to do muscle ups. You also have fewer options to upgrade in the feature as the top beams do not provide holes to attach additional
equipment too.
The standard edition mainly
changes the top part of your rig. The double
pull-up bars are swapped for beams. This
frees up space for muscle ups along the rig, gives it more stability and options to attach extra
equipment at the top of the rig. Examples can be climbing ropes and the
Rogue climbing boards. You still keep the option to move freely around at the bottom. This is the right choice for gyms that have a bit more budget, want more upgrade possibilities while still being able to move around freely. If your members are gradually getting fitter you also might consider changing a base model to standard model.
- 10'
- 2 Squat/Bench stations
- 5 pull up stations
- 14'
- 4 Squat/Bench stations
- 6 Pull up stations
- 20'
- 4 Squat/Bench stations
- 9 Pull up stations
- 24'
- 6 Squat/Bench stations
- 10 pull up stations
Take some time to think about what you are planning in advance.
- How many clients should the Monster lite Rig bring you
If you think that the
Monster lite Rig will bring you 6 -17 new clients who pay you 50$ on a 1-year retainer it is worth the investment. This will yield 3590$ - 10.190$ net new revenue against an investment of 1.795 - 5095$. Adjust the numbers for your own gym accordingly.
Pros of the Rogue Monster Lite Rig
The monster lite rig gives you the freedom to play with many different configurations. It also comes in at a lower price than the
Monster series Rig which can help if you want to save costs. Most of the accessories for rigs also cost slightly less in the
Monster Lite version than the monster version. It will be easier to transport and disassemble than the
Monster rig if you have to that often.
Cons of the Rogue Monster lite Rig
The Monster Lite rig is not compatible with all Rogue
equipment. As Rogue is pushing into the machines space now expect that most of the heavy machinery will be only or firstly available for the
more stable monster construction. Also, some of the accessories you can get for the
Monster series might not be available. If you exactly know what your gym should look like and you will have no needs for future upgrades, go for
Monster Lite to optimize your price. If you are unsure how your gym and client base will develop, go with
Monster to leave you with more options.
Alternatives to the Monster lite series
Here are some alternatives to the
Monster lite series
which you can consider:
This is the minimum configuration of the big brother of the
Monster lite series
which includes:
- Base edition
- Rig length of 10'
You get the same
rig, just a bit more sturdy and with more upgrade options for the future. I am always a fan of overengineering when possible. Especially when you do not buy a long rig this upgrade makes sense as you only spend about 100$ more. The longer the rig gets, the more it hurts your purse to go for
Monster.
This is the maximum you can go to on the
Monster Rig. As you can see the difference in price between the maximum config for
Monster Lite and
Monster is 1.000$. Pay special attention to these economies of scale when you are outfitting a very big gym. You also might want to
consider buying separate RM6 racks instead of a Rig, when you already see a need for so many heavy duty squat/bench stations. That leaves you with more options to utilize your space as you are probably not going to run around a lot in this config anyway.
Conclusion
The Rogue Monster lite Rig is still a very sturdy build, even though it has a bigger brother with the Monster Series. When you want to build a very long rig this might be the better option than the Monster series. This is the go to option for mere mortals who do not weigh 140kg and deadlift 900 pounds.