Rogue Monster Lat pull down vs Flying pull up bar

This is a comparison between the Rogue Lat pull down and Rogue Flying pull up bar including pros, cons, and alternatives. The Original was published in which accessory equipment to get for your rogue rack. Follow the links for details

Overview and review of the Monster Flying Pull up bar

The Rogue Monster Flzing Pull up bar comes in at $455 and are a great addition to your existing rack to widen the possible exercises you can do. This article was originally published in "which accessory equipment to get for your rogue rack".

What else to consider from Rogue

Overview of the flying pull up bar

The flying pull up bar is a great tool to train upper body strength and athletic prowess. The rings of the flying pull up bar can be adjusted at different instances. This will enable you or your athletes to train explosiveness and eye to hand coordination while working on grip and their upper body. The specifications of the flying pull up bar for the Monster rig are:

Made in the USA
Only work with monster rig/rack
Color black
500lb+ weight capacity
Width 49”
Height 140.5” / 108”

This is a great addition to your home gym of your ceilings are high enough. It is also a tool for more advanced athletes. If you only have beginners there might be better investments to put your money into like a sled or medicine balls.

Pros of the flying pull up bar

This is well thought through addition to any existing monster rack to take your pull-ups to the next level. Without taking up the space of a full ninja warrior obstacle course you can simulate many different climbing scenarios with a few extra attachments. You can also use the flying pull up bar to add some height to make your gymnastics rings a more effective tool for muscle-ups and other movements.

Cons of the flying pull up bar

This attachment is for advanced athletes and takes some extra space. You will be hard-pressed to fit it in many garage, basement and garden gyms or it will add considerable cost to the built. For a first-time gym outfitting, there are defiantly better attachments and equipment to invest your money in to cater to many needs.

Alternatives to the flying pull up bar

Here are some alternatives to the Monster flying pull up bar

Monster Lite / Infinity flying pull up bar
Crown pull up bar
Rogue Monster Slinger

The infinity and Monster lite flying pull up bars do essentially the same as the monster version, just for the respective rogue series of racks. You will save a little coat and be able to attach it to the rack you already own or purchase with the attachment.

The Crown Pull up bar is an alternative to vary your training and especially focus on grip strength. While the crown will not help as much with explosive strength it gives you many setups to use. It also does not add to the height of your rack and can, therefore, be installed in more environments. As it is level it is also more beginner-friendly and therefore a better fit for first time outfittings.

The Rogue Monster Slinger is an attachment to the Rogue rack which can be used for cable and pulley work. This will be a versatile tool for beginners and pros alike. It also comes at a fraction of the cost of the flying pull up bar so you might be able to equip three racks with some extra toys rather than just one.

Summary for the flying pull up bar

The Rogue flying pull up bar is a great addition to your first rack purchase or existing setup if you are an advanced athlete yourself or have many advanced athletes in your gym. If you are a beginner maybe hold off on this item in the beginning and go for a crown pull up bar or Slinger instead depending on your style of training.

Overview and review of the Rogue Monster Lat pull down stand alone

Price: 2.950

This review was originally posted in the longer article "Which strength equipment to buy from rogue" in which you can read about 25 products of Rogue which cost more than 1.000$. The Rogue Monster lat pull down will create more bats in your gym. See the details in this article.

Overview of the Rogue Monster Lat pull down

The Monster Lat pulldown Standalone is a lat pulldown machine for the expert athlete. As with all Rogue equipment this machine is built like a tank. The lat pulldown machine is a great example of how Rogue takes pride in what they do and takes their customer feedback series.

If you read between the lines you can see that the pulley, the bar, cable, and Steel eye were not up to Rogue's standards in the V1 of this machine. All of these parts have been consequently brought in-house and are not bought from 3rd parties anymore. These things are normal when new production lines are being built, a new market is tested and new processes build around them.

At least Rogue took the right learnings from this and perfected their Rhino launch. The prone leg curl and the ISO leg press have not gotten a V2 overhaul yet whereas the Lat pull down has. Be aware of this when you buy from Rogue. I am positive they will accommodate valid feedback, especially on big orders. If you buy for your home gym, maybe wait on the leg press and curl until there is more feedback available or find a gym nearby to test them.

The Rogue Lat pulldown weighs 605lb and offers up to 300lb resistance in plates in 10lb increments. It has a footprint of 40'' by 60''. It is 60'' long, 40'' wide and 96'' high. The steel notes are 3x3 11-gauge steel just like the rest of the Rogue Monster series.

Pros of the Rogue Monster lat pull down

This lat pulldown is also a rowing machine so you get two for the price of one. The difference to many other rowing machines is that Rogue came up with an idea that does not make the bench longer. By positioning a footrest under the seat this lat pulldown machine turns into a rowing machine without adding extra length.

Another big pro is that this machine allows the use of bands with the lat pull. This is very unique and I have not seen many machines like this. Especially when you have experienced athletes you will appreciate that you can work with bands.

Cons of the Rogue Monster Lat pull down

A lat pulldown is a big machine. It will take up quite a bit of space where a pull-up bar might create a similar effect. Especially in a home gym scenario, you might be better off getting dumbbells and a pull-up bar which takes up less floor space. As with other machines, the pulley system takes maintenance. Oiling this system and keeping it in check might not be for everyone.

How many clients do you need for the lat pull down?

If you think that the Lat pulldown will bring you 10 new clients who pay you 50$ on a 1-year retainer it is worth the investment. This will yield 6.000$ net new revenue against an investment of 2.950$. Adjust the numbers for your own gym accordingly.

Alternatives to the Lat pull down from Rogue

Here are some alternatives to the Rogue lat pull down

1x Rhino belt Squat Rack @ 2750$

The Rhino belt including the half rack will give you a better pulley system and the necessary rack to play around with it. It will not exactly be the same and the workarounds might be not ideal, however, it is possible. I would also be very surprised if Rogue did not capitalize on the opportunity to deliver a system that combines the RM6 and Rhino to a fully built all-purpose gym station. Stay tuned for that one.

1x Monster Lite Rig @ 2.495$

A monster lite rig will provide you with

4 Squat/ Bench Stations
8 Pull up Stations

For less than the price for one lat pulldown machine. If you are aiming to open a small CrossFit gym this is the way to go. This also shows you that Rogue still has to work on optimizing their costs on building machines. The upshot is that you will get a machine that is fully made in the US. If you work for the government this might even be a requirement for purchase.

Conclusion

The Rogue Monster lat pull down is a very solid machine for your gym. If you do not want to compromise and attract the biggest and best athletes to your gym, this is the one to go for.