Rogue Socket curl pull up bar vs P-4 pull up system

This is a comparison of the Rogue Socket pull up bar and the Rogue P-4 that looks at the pros, cons, and alternatives for this product. Follow the links for additional detail.

Overview and review of the Rogue R-4 pull up system

This is an overview of the Rogue P-4 pull up sytsem that looks at the pros, cons, and alternatives for this product. Follow the links for additional detail.

Overview of the Rogue P4 pull up system

Price $145 to $420

The Rogue P-4 pull up system provides you with a lot of space to perform kipping pull-ups or muscle-ups with a lot of clearing to the wall or ceiling. This System can be either installed directly on the wall or hang from the ceiling. The extra steel beam gives you extra support when you throw your full weight at the construction. On top of this, you can use multiple P4 brackets to daisy chain together the entire length of the wall for pull stations. A great option to fill a wall that is currently not being used for many exercises. The specifics of the P4 system are:

1x2" 11-Gauge Steel
Depth: 30" from wall/ceiling
Width: Can be set on 16" Stud Centers or custom width up to 48" between brackets
Total Length: You can add brackets for miles by putting brackets in a row. 1"/1.25" Pipe can be purchased from local tube supplier in 24' lengths.
Orientation: This unit can be setup vertically or horizontally, our unique support arm will keep this rig sturdy!
Mounting Hardware NOT included.

If you know your way with a drill and in a home depot, the P4 system leaves you with a lot of options without having to do too much welding and customizing yourself.

Pros of the P-4 Pull-up system

The Pros of the Rogue P-4 pull up system are:

Big clearance to wall or ceiling
Versatile
Extra beam for stability

The P-4 is the right choice when you want to separate your pull-ups from your rack. Especially for circuit training and kipping pull-ups this is a better setup than doing your pull-ups directly on the rack where you also store your plates, have a barbell racked and a bench in the way. The brackets come separately and therefore leave you with flexible setup options depending on where you want to mount them in your gym. The extra metal beam gives this pull up bar support, even if you throw a lot at it.

The cons of the P-4 Pull up system

Cons of the Rogue P-4 pull up system are:

Some DIY required
Only one grip variation
Maybe too clunky for some for mounting on the ceiling

To mount this pull up system correctly to the wall you will need some DIY skills. You will not a drill that con anchor the system into the wall, need to make it level, and maybe go to the local home depot to get the right bar that fits your setup. If you are a handyman and do jobs around the house all the time, this is no big deal. If you are like me and do not even own a toolbox, you might want to stay away from this one. Compared to the crown pull up bar you will only have a straight bar and Compared to the P-6v you might find the steel rod to be in the way, especially when mounting the P-4 on the ceiling.

Alternatives to the Rogue P-4 pull up system

Alternatives to the P-4 pull-up system:

The jammer pull up bar is probably the easiest Rogue pull-up bar to install without buying a rack. It comes with a backplate included and can be installed above a door by drilling some holes in the ground. This leaves little opportunity to measure wring or not getting the brackets level. If you are not great at DIY and want a pull-up bar in your home, the jammer bar is the better choice.

The P-3 is the same design as the P-4 with a little less clearance to the wall or ceiling when it is setup. If you are a smaller athlete or do not have enough space to justify a P-4, you can go with the P-3 instead. Check the measurements form Rogue and also do some sketches in the room, before deciding between the P3 and P3 if space is an issue.

The P-6v is, in my opinion, the better pull up bracket to install on the ceiling. How the steel is welded leaves less wear and tear in a ceiling set up for this pull-up system than for the P-4. Both will work, but the P-6v will give a smoother ride when hanging from the ceiling.

Conclusion for the P-4 pull-up system

If you are a taller athlete or train a group of taller athletes and want to daisy chain multiple pull-up stations together, this is the choice for you. If you do not have the clearance or deal with smaller athletes you can also go for the P-3.If you have little to no DIY skills, but still want to get a Pull-up bar installed in your house, then the Jammer Pull-up bar is the least painful choice to install without breaking the bank.

Overview and review of the Rogue Socket curl pull up bar

This is an overview of the Rogue Socket curl pull up bar that looks at the pros, cons and alternatives for this product. Follow the links for additional detail.

Overview of the Rogue Curl pull up bar

Price $165 to $145

The Rogue Socket pull up bar is an option for the Monster, Monster Lite, and Infinity Series of Rogue to be included in your shipping. You can select it when you configure your rig or rack for a little extra money. The Rogue Curl pull up bar goes through the same production process as the Curl bar from Rogue with a 28.5mm Diameter. When the rod has been formed it just gets paired with the sockets for the rack it is paired with, rather than putting sleeves for plates on it. The specifics of this curl bar are as followed:

Made in the USA
43” Cambered Pull-Up Bar - Compatible with Monster Series rigs and racks
Solid Round Steel construction, precision formed
Diameter: 28.5MM
Black E-Coat Finish
Ohio Knurling extended to close grip portion of bar
Mounting Sockets and Hardware included

This is a good choice if you mainly do straight pull-ups and do not intend to do muscle-ups or kipping pull-ups. It has to be combined with a rack purchase to function in your home gym.

Pros of the Rogue Curl pull up bar

The pros of the Rogue curl pull up bar:

Easier on the wrists
Grippy knurling
Space efficient

Compared to straight pull up bars the curl bar is a lot easier on the wrists. If you think that kipping pull-ups are for sissies and like to vary your grip a lot for straight pull-ups this is the bar to get. The knurling is tough on your hands and provides a good grip. As you are mounting this pull-up bar on a rack it also saves space. Just make sure that you get the right sockets fro your rack if you purchase this pull up bar after acquiring your rack from Rogue.

Cons of the Rogue curl pull up bar

Cons of the Rogue curl pull up bar are:

Bad setup for kipping
Bad setup for muscle-ups
No color options

The Rogue curl pull up bar is great if you do your pull-ups hardstyle and stick to the philosophies of Pavel Tsatsoulin. If you are a Crossfit fan, this bar is pretty much useless. Kipping and muscle-ups are not great when your pull up bar comes in waves. In addition, Rogue also currently does not offer any color customizations on the curl bar, where they do for the socket pull up bar.

Alternatives to the Rogue Curl pull up bar

Alternatives to the Rogue Curl pull up bar are:

The Rogue socket bar can also come with a rack purchase. Depending on your preferences you can choose to equip the rack with a curl or socket bar. Just take care at checkout. The plain version is even cheaper than the curl bar and you can flick through the color options if you want to add a bit of pop.

For the Rogue Crown pull up system you need to make sure that you buy an additional crossmember on your rack purchase. Instead of choosing one of the pull-up bars, choose the 43" crossmember or the equivalent to that for the rack you buy. The Crown pull-up bar is then installed to the crossmember with nuts and bolts. Make sure you pick the right one to pair with your rack is there is an option that goes with the Infinity and Monster Lite racks, while another goes with the Monster series. The crown pull-up bar is probably the best value for money pull up system Rogue offers when you want to train multiple pull-up and hanging grips. The crown bar can not be used as stand-alone and needs to be mounted to a rack crossmember.

If you are more interested in simulating a climbing workout you can use the Rogue climbing crossmember. This attachment will provide the surface to attach climbing holds to your rogue rack. Rogue sells a set of 8 different holds with various sizes for $115 separately.

Conclusion for the Rogue Curl pull up bar

I personally got this pull up bar with my RM4 purchase. As this was during Corona times I was mainly looking for delivery times, rather than the optimal solution for me. Preferably I would have gotten a socket or crown bar, but these were out of stock. If you are into straight pull-ups and you have the money to spend, go for the crown pull up bar. Otherwise, get the socket and add a splash of color to be able to do kipping pull-ups and muscle-ups.