Rogue Butcher V2 vs Rogue Echo sled
This is a comparison of the Rogue Butcher V2 and the Rogue echo sled including pros, cons, and alternatives. This was originally posted in Which sled to get from Rogue.
Overview and review of the Rogue Echo dog sled
This is an overview of the Rogue Echo sled including pros, cons, and alternatives. This was originally posted in Which sled to get from Rogue.
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Overview of the Rogue Echo Dogsled
Price $195
The Rogue Echo Dogsled is a streamlined version of the first Dogsled design from Rogue. This way they manage to cut cost on a time tested model for push and pull movements for your home gym or commercial gym. With 450lb weight capacity you can still get a challenging workout in, while keeping mobile. If you are worried about the floor you can get plastic skis to do less damage. The full specifications are:
- Made in the USA
- Single-piece formed steel construction: 0.25" Plate Steel
- Foot Print: 36.5" x 25"
- Height: 37.5" (with uprights & plastic)
- Weight: 87LB, 450+LB weight capacity
- Includes (1) carabiner
- Includes (2) Push Poles which can be placed in any of the four sockets
- All hardware for set-up included
Pros of the Rogue Echo Dogsled
- Price
- Carabiner included
This sled is mainly about the lowest price point possible from Rogue and does what it says on the tin. Dogsled, pin, plate, go train. Nothing much more here.
Cons of the Echo Dogsled
The cons of the Echo dogsled are:
- One purpose only
- Feet not detachable
Compared to the Dogsled 1.2 the echo sled only has one operation mode. You can detach the uprights for easier storage, but you can not use other attachments with it. Still, it has two carabiner holes prebuilt. Another problem can be the bottom of the sled. As it is mainly made from one piece, you have to get a new one if it breaks.
Alternatives to the Rogue Echo Dogsled
The dogsled 1.2 is the upgraded version of the original Dogsled design from Rogue. While the Echo is the budget version, the Dogsled 1.2 has many different options for attachments to make training more interesting and challenging. If you are only getting one sled for yourself the Dogsled 1.2 is probably the better buy. If you have to get an armada, stick with the Echo sled.
The Rogue butcher V2 is the truck amongst the sled from Rogue. This sled can take the most plates if you want to do heavy pushes. The downside is that it is not very versatile and harder to store than all the other sled from Rogue because of its size.
The Xpo trainer 2 has an innovative design for a sled and uses wheels. This way it is less damaging to driveways and lawny in suburbia or your precious gym flooring. It wors with a flywheel engine that increases the resistance the harder you go at it. This is great for a good speed workout. If you want to et better at getting heavy loads moving from zero, the XPO might not be the best tool to improve in this section.
Conclusion for the Rogue echo sled
The Rogue echo sled is a great budget option to get yourself a high-quality sled to do your workouts outside. Especially if you are going to store your sled outside, this is probably a better option than the more expensive ones from Rogue.
Overview and review of the Rogue Butcher V2
This is an overview of the Rogue Butcher V2 including pros, cons, and alternatives. This was originally posted in Which sled to get from Rogue.
Overview of the Rogue Butcher
Price: $265
The Rogue Butcher is a simple design for a sled that holds a lot of plates. This is the right tool to get if you want to do heavy-duty sled pushes and pull.s The Rogue butcher has two uprights on which you can place plates. This makes the capacity a lot bigger than for the Dogsled from Rogue. The full specifications of the butcher are:
- Made in the USA
- 2x3” 11-Gauge Steel
- Weight: 74LB / Weight Capacity: 500LB+
- Rogue Signature Matte Black Powdercoat finish provides grip on all handles
- Bolt-On Steel Feet can be used on any surface, fully replaceable
- Multiple bars for different pushing positions
- Compact footprint (42.25" x 47.25") and removable handles allows for easy storage, portability
- Protective UHMW plastic skis can be added to order and come with all necessary hardware
Pros of the rogue butcher V2
- Simple and robust build
- Two possible plate stacks
- Bolt-on feet
This is a simple t build with two metal rods stuck on to the top. Nothing fancy just good old metal and bolts. This is exactly what you want when you want to go heavy on the sledding. Rogue also learned from the past and made the feet detachable in case they break. This way you can easily swap them out, without having to replace the entire unit.
Cons of the Rogue butcher V2
Cons of the V2 butcher are:
- Only one operational mode
- Possible damages the floors
- Harder to store than the dogsled
The butcher only comes with one configuration which gives you less use for your buck compared to a yoke or the rogue Dogsled 1.2. As with all sleds, it will also possibly damage your driveway, gym floor or any other surface you will use it on. The butcher uprights are also welded onto the t construction. This makes it harder to put it away into a small corner compared to the Dogsled 1.2 which has removable uprights.
Alternatives to the butcher V2
The XPO trainer 2 has the same training effect as the butcher, except it runs on wheels. This way you will not hurt the surfaces you train on as much and still get a good workout in. The XPO works with a type of flywheel to make the resistance higher the faster you go. If you like the missing momentum of deadweight than the butcher is probably better for very heavy sled pulls or pushes.
The dogsled 1.2 is the most versatile option out of the Rogue sled line up. While it is less bulky and big than the butcher, it makes up for in different attachments to train in different ways. Especially the many ways to use a carabiner and rope in combination with the Dogsled 1.2 makes it the better tools to move lower payloads around fast to become more agile. The downside is that it is not made for holöding a ton of plates like the butcher is.
The last option is a Rogue Yoke 2. The Rogue Y2 has also been equipped with plastic feet. This way pushed and pulls as with a sled can be done. The Yoke triples up as a yoke, squat stand, and sled in this configuration. At a price point of roughly $500 to $700 dollars you get an all in one gym. The downside that the Yoke is a lot clunkier than the Rogue sleds for speed work. If you go slow and heavy the yoke is adoption, but not if you want to accelerate and change directions fast in your training.
Conclusion for the Butcher V2
The Rogue butcher V2 is a great tool for heavy sled pushes. Rugby players and football players will enjoy them to train how to block and tackle. If you are more into agility or 4-5 plates are more than enough for your strength endeavors, then the Dogsled 1.2 is possibly the better choice for your training needs.