Rogue Monster Lat pull down stand alone vs TITAN Glute and Hamstring developer

This is a comparison of the Rogue Monster Lat pull and the TITAN Glute and hamstring developer including pros, cons, and alternatives. Follow the links for more details.

Overview and review of the TITAN Glute and Hamstring developer $414

This is an overview of the TITAN Glute and hamstring developer including pros, cons and alternatives. This article was originally posted in Which gym machine to get from TITAN. Follow the links for additional information.

Overview of the TITAN Glute and hamstring developer

The TITAN Glute and hamstring developer is a clone of the similar product from Rogue, but for about half the price. A glute and hamstring developer helps with attacking the lower back and hamstring in a way that is only hard to do with usual machines and free weights. On this the TITAN GHD delivers with minor subtractions for product quality. The full specifications of the TITAN GHD are:

- Wide adjustment range

- Extra large pads for comfort

- Heavy-Duty steel construction

- Wide base to eliminate tipping

- Includes wheels for mobility or storage

- Height: 41-in.

- Width: 45.5-in.

- Length: 70-in.

- Weight Capacity: 350 lb.

- Product Weight: 190 lb.

- Packaging: 2 boxes

This is a good addition for a home gym with extra space or a commercial gym for athletes and strength focused clients. Be preapred that this machine will need some instructions to be used properly, if you put it in a public space as it is not as straightforward to use as other machines you will find in commercial gym.

Pros of the TITAN Glute and hamstring developer

The pros of the TITAN GHD are:

Price
Build

This machine does what it says on the tin for half the price. It is build like a tank and if you are the only one using it you also do not have to worry about the minor design flaws this machine has compared to the Rogue GHD. If you want to save money for your home gym and at the same time train the heck out of your posterior chain than this is the weapon of choice.

Cons of the TITAN Glute and hamstring developer

The cons of the TITAN Glute and hamstring developer are:

Space requirements
Adjusting the machine
Reverse hyper not included

One big point against the TITAN GHD is the space requirement. In addition to the big footprint you also have to factor in that you will be hanging out of the construction to do the exercise. This makes it an unusable solution in many small spaces which barely fit a rack.

TITAN did not fully think through how to adjust this machine for multiple users. In a home gym scenario this is irrelevant and you can just take the savings made compared to the Rogue GHD. If you run a commercial gym and expect the machine to be adjusted often for several users, than you might want to go for their machine as the mechanics work easier.

TITAN also has machines in their portofolio which are a GHD and reverse hyper in one. If you want to save money and space I would encourage you to look into these options before making your final purchase decision. Especially if you have limited space.

Alternatives to the TITAN Glute and hamstring developer

Alternatives to the Glute and Hamstring developer are:

The TITAN H-PND was the first go from TITAN at a reverse hyper. This machine is heavily overbuilt and therefore great for very big individuals who have the space for a dedicated Reverse hyper machine. If you have multiple athletes that want to move tons of weights on a reverse hyper this is the one for you.

The TITAN Economy H-PND is a budget optimized version of the Original reverse Hyper from TITAN. To put a lower price tag on it it has been shrunk on most aspects. It has a smaller pad and the steel it is built of is thinner. It is still a massive machine that can be used by most average joes. If your gym is swarmed by individuals the size of MIke O Hearn, Stan Efferding, and Brian Shaw, you might want to go for the H-PND instead.

The TITAN Glute and Hamstring combo is a GHD and reverse hyper combo based on the design of the Economy H-PND. This is a great machine for a spacious home gym that wants to have a reverse hyper and a GHD.

Conclusion for the TITAN Glute and Hamstring developer

If you have a commercial gym that fits a reverse hyper and a GHD, the Titan Glute and hamstring developer is a great option. in a home gym i would definitely also look at the Glute and hamstring combo if I have already identified the need for a GHD to kill two birds with one stone. The space you save could be used against a belt squat machine.

Overview and review of the Rogue Monster Lat pull down stand alone

Price: 2.950

This review was originally posted in the longer article "Which strength equipment to buy from rogue" in which you can read about 25 products of Rogue which cost more than 1.000$. The Rogue Monster lat pull down will create more bats in your gym. See the details in this article.

Overview of the Rogue Monster Lat pull down

The Monster Lat pulldown Standalone is a lat pulldown machine for the expert athlete. As with all Rogue equipment this machine is built like a tank. The lat pulldown machine is a great example of how Rogue takes pride in what they do and takes their customer feedback series.

If you read between the lines you can see that the pulley, the bar, cable, and Steel eye were not up to Rogue's standards in the V1 of this machine. All of these parts have been consequently brought in-house and are not bought from 3rd parties anymore. These things are normal when new production lines are being built, a new market is tested and new processes build around them.

At least Rogue took the right learnings from this and perfected their Rhino launch. The prone leg curl and the ISO leg press have not gotten a V2 overhaul yet whereas the Lat pull down has. Be aware of this when you buy from Rogue. I am positive they will accommodate valid feedback, especially on big orders. If you buy for your home gym, maybe wait on the leg press and curl until there is more feedback available or find a gym nearby to test them.

The Rogue Lat pulldown weighs 605lb and offers up to 300lb resistance in plates in 10lb increments. It has a footprint of 40'' by 60''. It is 60'' long, 40'' wide and 96'' high. The steel notes are 3x3 11-gauge steel just like the rest of the Rogue Monster series.

Pros of the Rogue Monster lat pull down

This lat pulldown is also a rowing machine so you get two for the price of one. The difference to many other rowing machines is that Rogue came up with an idea that does not make the bench longer. By positioning a footrest under the seat this lat pulldown machine turns into a rowing machine without adding extra length.

Another big pro is that this machine allows the use of bands with the lat pull. This is very unique and I have not seen many machines like this. Especially when you have experienced athletes you will appreciate that you can work with bands.

Cons of the Rogue Monster Lat pull down

A lat pulldown is a big machine. It will take up quite a bit of space where a pull-up bar might create a similar effect. Especially in a home gym scenario, you might be better off getting dumbbells and a pull-up bar which takes up less floor space. As with other machines, the pulley system takes maintenance. Oiling this system and keeping it in check might not be for everyone.

How many clients do you need for the lat pull down?

If you think that the Lat pulldown will bring you 10 new clients who pay you 50$ on a 1-year retainer it is worth the investment. This will yield 6.000$ net new revenue against an investment of 2.950$. Adjust the numbers for your own gym accordingly.

Alternatives to the Lat pull down from Rogue

Here are some alternatives to the Rogue lat pull down

1x Rhino belt Squat Rack @ 2750$

The Rhino belt including the half rack will give you a better pulley system and the necessary rack to play around with it. It will not exactly be the same and the workarounds might be not ideal, however, it is possible. I would also be very surprised if Rogue did not capitalize on the opportunity to deliver a system that combines the RM6 and Rhino to a fully built all-purpose gym station. Stay tuned for that one.

1x Monster Lite Rig @ 2.495$

A monster lite rig will provide you with

4 Squat/ Bench Stations
8 Pull up Stations

For less than the price for one lat pulldown machine. If you are aiming to open a small CrossFit gym this is the way to go. This also shows you that Rogue still has to work on optimizing their costs on building machines. The upshot is that you will get a machine that is fully made in the US. If you work for the government this might even be a requirement for purchase.

Conclusion

The Rogue Monster lat pull down is a very solid machine for your gym. If you do not want to compromise and attract the biggest and best athletes to your gym, this is the one to go for.